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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/9] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:24:44 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1911200018470.15956@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191119202542.GB36377@google.com>

Hi,

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019, Emily Shaffer wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 12:11:38PM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> writes:
> >
> > > Teach Git how to prompt the user for a good bug report: reproduction
> > > steps, expected behavior, and actual behavior. Later, Git can learn how
> > > to collect some diagnostic information from the repository.
> >
> > It makes sense, but I do not think of any good reason why this
> > should be implemented as a builtin.  I'd expect it would probably
> > need to collect more info on the running environment than otherwise
> > necessary for the regular Git operation, and perhaps you'd want to
> > even link with libraries that are not needed for the regular Git
> > operation to achieve that.
> >
> > Can you make it a standalone binary instead to avoid bloat of the
> > main "git" binary?
>
> Sure. This would fix some other issues (needing to link against curl to
> get the curl version, which is exactly what you implied). I wasn't
> certain which circumstances a standalone binary was preferred, but I
> agree with your reasoning here for sure.

FWIW I disagree with the idea that a tiny built-in command like
`bugreport` would "bloat" the main `git` binary.

In contrast, I think that stand-alone commands _do_ bloat. Look here:

$ ls -lh git-daemon.exe git-credential-store.exe
-rwxr-xr-x 1 me 4096 1.8M Nov  6 13:43 git-credential-store.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 me 4096 1.8M Nov  6 13:43 git-daemon.exe*

In other words, even a super simple stand-alone like `credential-store`
(the `credential-store.c` file has only 198 lines!) weighs in with almost
two megabytes.

So I fear that the claim that a stand-alone command would add less bloat
than a built-in one, especially for a relatively small thing like
`bugreport` has it exactly backwards.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply index

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-17  0:39 [PATCH v2 0/2] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2019-08-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2019-10-25  2:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2019-10-29 20:29     ` Josh Steadmon
2019-11-16  3:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 20:25       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-11-19 23:24         ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2019-11-20  0:37           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-20 10:51             ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-19 23:31         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-20  0:39           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-20  2:09           ` Emily Shaffer
2019-11-20  0:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] bugreport: generate config whitelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 13:27     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] bugreport: add version and system information Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 13:49     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-08 21:48       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-11-11 13:48         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-14 21:42           ` Emily Shaffer
2019-10-29 20:43     ` Josh Steadmon
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] bugreport: add config values from whitelist Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 14:14     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-11 20:48       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-15 17:30         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-10-29 20:58     ` Josh Steadmon
2019-10-30  1:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-14 21:55         ` Emily Shaffer
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 14:31     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-11 20:51       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-15 17:40         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 15:07     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-10 22:34       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-10-29 21:18     ` Josh Steadmon
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 15:43     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-11  0:29       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-11 13:37         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-11 20:52           ` Emily Shaffer
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 15:51     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-10-25  2:51   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] bugreport: print contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2019-10-28 15:57     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-19 20:40       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-10-29  1:54   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] add git-bugreport tool Junio C Hamano
2019-10-29 11:13     ` Johannes Schindelin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-08-17  0:39 [PATCH v2 2/2] bugreport: generate config whitelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2019-08-17 20:38 ` Martin Ågren
2019-08-21 17:40   ` Emily Shaffer
2019-08-15  2:34 [PATCH] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2019-08-15 14:15 ` Derrick Stolee
2019-08-15 14:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-08-15 22:52     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-08-15 23:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-08-16  1:25         ` Emily Shaffer
2019-08-16 16:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-08-16 19:08             ` Emily Shaffer
2019-08-15 20:07   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-08-15 22:24     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-08-16 20:19       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-08-15 20:13   ` Emily Shaffer
2019-08-15 18:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-08-15 21:52   ` Emily Shaffer
2019-08-15 22:29     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-08-15 22:54       ` Emily Shaffer

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