From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ben Peart" <peartben@gmail.com>,
"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, pclouds@gmail.com,
"Ben Peart" <benpeart@microsoft.com>,
jonathantanmy@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] index: offer advice for unknown index extensions
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:01:12 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq36rv81nr.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121003912.GC149929@google.com> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:39:12 -0800")
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:
> I don't *think* you intend to say "sure, you got user reports, but
> (those users are wrong | those users are not real | you are not
> interpreting those users correctly)", but that is what I am hearing.
What I have been saying is "we are sending a wrong message to those
users by not clearly saying 'optional' (i.e. it is OK for your Git
not to understand this optional bits of information---you do not
have to get alarmed immediately) and also not hinting where that
optional thing comes from (i.e. if users realized they come from the
future, the coalmine canary message will serve its purpose of
reminding them that a newer Git is not just available but has been
used already in their repository and help them to rectify the
situation sooner)".
As the deployed versions of Git will keep sending the wrong message,
I do not mind applying 1/5 and 2/5, given especially that Ben seems
to be OK with the plan. I however do not think 3 thru 5 is ready
yet with this round---there were some discussions on phrasing in
this thread.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-21 5:01 UTC|newest]
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2018-08-23 15:41 [PATCH v1] read-cache: speed up index load through parallelization Ben Peart
2018-08-23 17:31 ` Stefan Beller
2018-08-23 19:44 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-24 18:40 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-28 14:53 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-23 18:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-23 20:33 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-24 15:37 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-24 15:57 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-24 17:28 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-25 6:44 ` [PATCH] read-cache.c: optimize reading index format v4 Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-27 19:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-28 19:25 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-28 23:54 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-29 17:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-04 16:08 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-02 13:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-09-02 13:19 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] read-cache.c: " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-09-04 18:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-04 19:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-24 18:20 ` [PATCH v1] read-cache: speed up index load through parallelization Duy Nguyen
2018-08-24 18:40 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-24 19:00 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-24 19:57 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Ben Peart
2018-08-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Ben Peart
2018-08-29 17:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-29 21:35 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-03 19:16 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] read-cache: load cache extensions on worker thread Ben Peart
2018-08-29 17:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-29 21:42 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-29 22:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-03 19:21 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-03 19:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] read-cache: micro-optimize expand_name_field() to speed up V4 index parsing Ben Peart
2018-09-06 21:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] read-cache: speed up index load through parallelization Ben Peart
2018-09-06 21:03 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] read-cache: optimize expand_name_field() to speed up V4 index parsing Ben Peart
2018-09-06 21:03 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] eoie: add End of Index Entry (EOIE) extension Ben Peart
2018-09-07 17:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-07 20:23 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-08 6:29 ` Martin Ågren
2018-09-08 14:03 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-08 17:08 ` Martin Ågren
2018-09-06 21:03 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] read-cache: load cache extensions on a worker thread Ben Peart
2018-09-07 21:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-08 14:56 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-06 21:03 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] read-cache: speed up index load through parallelization Ben Peart
2018-09-07 4:16 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-09-07 13:43 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-07 17:21 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Junio C Hamano
2018-09-07 18:31 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-08 13:18 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-11 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] " Ben Peart
2018-09-11 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] eoie: add End of Index Entry (EOIE) extension Ben Peart
2018-09-11 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] read-cache: load cache extensions on a worker thread Ben Peart
2018-09-11 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] read-cache: speed up index load through parallelization Ben Peart
2018-09-11 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] read-cache.c: optimize reading index format v4 Ben Peart
2018-09-11 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] read-cache: clean up casting and byte decoding Ben Peart
2018-09-12 14:34 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] read-cache: speed up index load through parallelization Ben Peart
2018-09-12 16:18 ` [PATCH v5 " Ben Peart
2018-09-12 16:18 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] eoie: add End of Index Entry (EOIE) extension Ben Peart
2018-09-13 22:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-15 10:02 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 14:54 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-17 16:05 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 17:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-17 17:38 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 19:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-12 16:18 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] read-cache: load cache extensions on a worker thread Ben Peart
2018-09-15 10:22 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-15 10:24 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 16:38 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-15 16:23 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 17:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-17 16:26 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-17 16:45 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 21:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-12 16:18 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] read-cache: load cache entries on worker threads Ben Peart
2018-09-15 10:31 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 17:25 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-15 11:07 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-15 11:09 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 18:52 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-15 11:29 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-12 16:18 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] read-cache.c: optimize reading index format v4 Ben Peart
2018-09-12 16:18 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] read-cache: clean up casting and byte decoding Ben Peart
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] speed up index load through parallelization Ben Peart
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] read-cache.c: optimize reading index format v4 Ben Peart
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] read-cache: clean up casting and byte decoding Ben Peart
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] eoie: add End of Index Entry (EOIE) extension Ben Peart
2018-09-28 0:19 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-09-28 18:38 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-29 0:51 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-09-29 5:45 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-29 18:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] config: add new index.threads config setting Ben Peart
2018-09-28 0:26 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-09-28 13:39 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-28 17:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-28 19:41 ` Ben Peart
2018-09-28 20:30 ` Ramsay Jones
2018-09-28 22:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-01 13:17 ` Ben Peart
2018-10-01 15:06 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] read-cache: load cache extensions on a worker thread Ben Peart
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] ieot: add Index Entry Offset Table (IEOT) extension Ben Peart
2018-09-26 19:54 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] read-cache: load cache entries on worker threads Ben Peart
2018-09-26 22:06 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] speed up index load through parallelization Junio C Hamano
2018-09-27 17:13 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 " Ben Peart
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] read-cache.c: optimize reading index format v4 Ben Peart
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] read-cache: clean up casting and byte decoding Ben Peart
2018-10-01 15:10 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] eoie: add End of Index Entry (EOIE) extension Ben Peart
2018-10-01 15:17 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-02 14:34 ` Ben Peart
2018-10-01 15:30 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-02 15:13 ` Ben Peart
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] config: add new index.threads config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] read-cache: load cache extensions on a worker thread Ben Peart
2018-10-01 15:50 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-02 15:00 ` Ben Peart
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] ieot: add Index Entry Offset Table (IEOT) extension Ben Peart
2018-10-01 16:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-02 16:34 ` Ben Peart
2018-10-02 17:02 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-01 13:45 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] read-cache: load cache entries on worker threads Ben Peart
2018-10-01 17:09 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-02 19:09 ` Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 0/7] speed up index load through parallelization Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] read-cache.c: optimize reading index format v4 Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] read-cache: clean up casting and byte decoding Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] eoie: add End of Index Entry (EOIE) extension Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] config: add new index.threads config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] read-cache: load cache extensions on a worker thread Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] ieot: add Index Entry Offset Table (IEOT) extension Ben Peart
2018-10-10 15:59 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] read-cache: load cache entries on worker threads Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:11 ` Jeff King
2018-10-22 2:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-22 14:40 ` Ben Peart
2018-10-12 3:18 ` [PATCH v8 0/7] speed up index load through parallelization Junio C Hamano
2018-10-14 12:28 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-15 17:33 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-13 0:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] Avoid confusing messages from new index extensions (Re: [PATCH v8 0/7] speed up index load through parallelization) Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 0:39 ` [PATCH 1/3] eoie: default to not writing EOIE section Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 1:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-13 15:14 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-13 18:25 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-14 1:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-15 0:19 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 0:39 ` [PATCH 2/3] ieot: default to not writing IEOT section Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 0:58 ` Jonathan Tan
2018-11-13 1:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-13 1:12 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 15:37 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-13 18:09 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 15:22 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-13 18:18 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 19:15 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-13 21:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-14 18:09 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-15 0:05 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-14 3:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-20 6:09 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Avoid confusing messages from new index extensions Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-20 6:11 ` [PATCH 1/5] eoie: default to not writing EOIE section Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-20 13:06 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-20 13:21 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-21 16:46 ` Jeff King
2018-11-22 0:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-20 15:01 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-20 6:12 ` [PATCH 2/5] ieot: default to not writing IEOT section Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-20 13:07 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-26 19:59 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-26 21:47 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-26 22:02 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-27 0:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-20 6:12 ` [PATCH 3/5] index: do not warn about unrecognized extensions Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-20 6:14 ` [PATCH 4/5] index: make index.threads=true enable ieot and eoie Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-20 13:24 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-20 6:15 ` [PATCH 5/5] index: offer advice for unknown index extensions Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-20 9:26 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 13:30 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-21 0:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-21 0:39 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-21 0:44 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-21 5:01 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2018-11-21 5:04 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-21 5:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-21 5:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-21 1:03 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-21 4:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-21 4:57 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-21 9:30 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-13 0:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] index: do not warn about unrecognized extensions Jonathan Nieder
2018-11-13 1:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-13 15:25 ` Ben Peart
2018-11-14 3:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-14 18:19 ` Ben Peart
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