From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C9CC2BA83 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 17:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062922073C for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 17:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="ec5VNqpY" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728793AbgBLRgp (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:36:45 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com ([64.147.108.70]:64845 "EHLO pb-smtp1.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726728AbgBLRgo (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:36:44 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A708C547C1; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:36:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=LvXyguXN658RrS7MqoF9HvJLhj8=; b=ec5VNq pY4VkiE29apvYzBYgYUpMyyhSEGrW4ATTV4iawz+Bs2JWC0149nukhPdgekWWMPK 99U5j31NNar59v2AMbn3Iz20iIkwa6AV8E7be90Ri6OfF7ySgFwQ820a0xnLIXLR QGzE5DWGIILqnWTDx9FkHYmClZBFKXXnHZ5+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=DeZlr2AdNWVQj8NV5ew1fJ8WsjWYR6+N eIyLLapXdGRJNG0mIVDBr5kbSm4Tb9GZ3qXId0hPHYrS+mSyXBm7D0b4Uc9PGiZ8 6p9GqvUOGLOhwpJFP2OYONNkKXpckVwYlFaVu4dCCiXJBITNMoAUTukt1UJg+UfG kZ9UxuYIBhM= Received: from pb-smtp1.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC93547C0; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:36:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.76.80.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14A4A547BF; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:36:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Sergey Organov Cc: Jeff King , Aleksey Midenkov , Abhishek Kumar , Git Mailing List Subject: Re: Git tedious verbosity References: <20200211195549.GE2127797@coredump.intra.peff.net> <20200211195627.GF2127797@coredump.intra.peff.net> <87k14se849.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 09:36:41 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87k14se849.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> (Sergey Organov's message of "Wed, 12 Feb 2020 07:34:46 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 3B3A42E6-4DBE-11EA-B7ED-C28CBED8090B-77302942!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Sergey Organov writes: > It says: > > All advice.* variables default to true, and you can tell Git that you > do not need help by setting these to false: > > If there were an option to set that default to 'false' (advice.default > maybe?), it'd have answered the demands of the experts, I think. Well, just like newbies won't stay to be newbies forever (and that is why you can disable advice.frotz once you learned about frotz), what you call "experts" won't stay to be experts, either. A new and backward incompatible way to work may be introduced and a new advice message to guide _everybody_ (including those who thought they were already experts) may have to be introduced, and turning off all advice.* variables, even the ones that you haven't seen, would hurt them. So...