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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] Cloning with remote unborn HEAD
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 14:28:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqh7mqyws4.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7n3p363.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IsOGdmFyIEFy?= =?utf-8?B?bmZqw7Zyw7A=?= Bjarmason"'s message of "Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:41:08 +0100")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jan 26 2021, Jonathan Tan wrote:
>
> [For some reason the patches didn't reach my mailbox, but I see them in
> the list archive, so I'm replying to the cover-letter]
>
>>  Documentation/config.txt                |  2 +
>>  Documentation/config/init.txt           |  2 +-
>
> Good, now we have init.defaultBranch docs, but they say:
>     
>      init.defaultBranch::
>             Allows overriding the default branch name e.g. when initializing
>     -       a new repository or when cloning an empty repository.
>     +       a new repository.
>
> So this still only applies to file:// and other "protocol" clones, but
> not "git clone /some/path"?

I agree with you that the new "unborn HEAD will also follow what the
upstream has" should be done for --local transport.  It is a bug
waiting to be complained about by users.

>     init.defaultBranch::
>         Allows overriding the default branch name e.g. when initializing a
>         new repository or when cloning an empty repository.
>     
>         When cloning a repository over protocol v2 (i.e. ssh://, https://,
>         file://, but not a /some/path), and if that repository has
>         init.defaultBranch configured, the server will advertise its
>         preferred default branch name, and we'll take its configuration over
>         ours.

I actually do not think that is what is going on.  What the other
side advertises is *NOT* their preferred default branch name and it
does not matter if they have init.defaultBranch configured or not.

What the new protocol extension gives us is that we can learn what
the other side is actually using (not their preferred default) as
their primary branch.  We've always done so since very early days of
"git clone" (even back when we failed to clone an empty repository),
by trying to guess which branch their HEAD points at.

The only thing that is new with this topic is that it now gives us
a reliable way to learn what their HEAD points at, even when it is
pointing at an unborn branch.

In general we do not let other side _dictate_ what our configuration
should look like, as that can have security implications, and this
is not sending any configuration at all.

Their HEAD may be pointing at a specific branch (which may or may
not be unborn) because that is what they configured their
init.defaultBranch to, or their version of Git created the branch
and they haven't changed it since repository creation, or the user
using that repository just started working with that branch with
"git checkout [--orphan]" (the repository being cloned does not have
to be a bare repository).  It does not matter how their HEAD ended
up pointing at a specific branch---we just try to mimic their
current status---it is because it would make it easier to give our
changes back to them if everybody involved used the same name for
the primary integration branch, and the repositories the people
clone from are most often have their primary integration branch
pointed at by their HEAD.

And I do not consider it transfering any configuration.

So while I agree that the logic to choose the branch that gets
checked out in a new repository created by "git clone" needs to be
documented well, it has very little to do with "init.defaultBranch".


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-06  3:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-08  1:31 Cloning empty repository uses locally configured default branch name Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08  2:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-08  2:32   ` brian m. carlson
2020-12-08 18:55   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08 21:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-08 15:58 ` Jeff King
2020-12-08 20:06   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08 21:15     ` Jeff King
2020-12-11 21:05 ` [PATCH] clone: in protocol v2, use remote's default branch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-11 23:41   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-14 12:38   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-14 15:51     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 16:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  1:41       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-15  2:22         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  2:38         ` Jeff King
2020-12-15  2:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  4:36             ` Jeff King
2020-12-16  3:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 18:39                 ` Jeff King
2020-12-16 20:56                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  6:19                     ` Jeff King
2020-12-15  3:22         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 19:25     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-14 19:42       ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-15  1:27   ` Jeff King
2020-12-15 19:10     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  2:07   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Cloning with remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  6:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 23:49         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16 18:23       ` Jeff King
2020-12-16 23:54         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-17  1:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  6:16             ` Jeff King
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  6:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:30   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Cloning with " Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:30     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:31     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:31     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 23:48     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-21 20:14     ` Jeff King
2020-12-22 21:54   ` [PATCH v4 " Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 20:48       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:13         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:16           ` Jeff King
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 20:55       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:16         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 21:02       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:22         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:04           ` Jeff King
2021-01-28  5:50             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-22 22:06     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 18:55 ` [PATCH v5 " Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 21:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 23:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  3:55         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:20       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 23:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 20:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-29 22:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  2:20           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  5:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  1:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-30  4:04       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 21:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  4:06       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 22:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  4:27       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-27  1:11   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  4:25     ` Jeff King
2021-01-27  6:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  1:41   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-30  4:41     ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-30 11:13       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  2:22       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-03 14:23         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-05 22:28     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-02-02  2:14 ` [PATCH v6 " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:14   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02 16:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02 18:34       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02 22:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-03  1:04           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:15   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:15   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Cloning with " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 16:10     ` Jeff King
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  5:25   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05 16:15     ` Jeff King
2021-02-05 21:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-05 23:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05 20:48 ` [PATCH v8 " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-06 18:51   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08 22:28     ` Junio C Hamano

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