From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E10C43331 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 20:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493B92078A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 20:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="KgPDGA1t" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727613AbgCXU7h (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:59:37 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]:65102 "EHLO pb-smtp21.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727040AbgCXU7h (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:59:37 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A7BB084B; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:59:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=zGWx1unH4Fdjy38cyEIra8QMHOI=; b=KgPDGA 1t3wXXu2bncOntforzQqDgXcsauIioQ9DXus38YUBbP5qQlT3y4SwmOGLhq3sZMb Ub9P11d9/eyqZGSbQ6zZb9nCKY4bE29oE8knjJWBFs8TtmDZZr9OdkD5oh2WEXBY pF6F7Om4YAp6tcdKzmtgkrXFZ7wR+HxZlJo4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=F7pNv+snOWCK+mrhNgwnp9FEqDkMp6gm 0RGftRtGBLFJPK1fHZMSv9LEUpXEWCXpj10XHu9k1An2y+GugYT3ICwCSe7T4A7n 6+vghTVhhGn/VBJUqbghNROXasQAoZuY7E1Z1cIUGTMGFtTuS+KI/Eplo0ObVDBq 9eQepDCkYJE= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFFAB084A; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:59:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.74.119.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67627B0849; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:59:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] tests(gpg): allow the gpg-agent to start on Windows References: <287a21f1033b2a74420029c529ad4db956051a85.1584968990.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:59:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Tue, 24 Mar 2020 20:55:04 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 5C3FDE0A-6E12-11EA-97CC-8D86F504CC47-77302942!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Johannes Schindelin writes: > I fear that this distinction really is lost on anybody who does not have > to deal with MSYS2 on Windows. > ... > In short: I am convinced that this is a subtlety in our test suite that we > cannot reasonably expect any contributors other than Windows-based ones to > get right, and I am fairly certain that we will just have to keep > monitoring the CI/PR builds for similar issues and then help the > contributors by suggesting the appropriate fixes. IOW, this cannot be made an engineering problem and has to stay a black art? ;-) That's somewhat sad, but I guess we have to live with it. Thanks.