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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 07/15] bugreport: add git-remote-https version
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 15:29:08 -0800
Message-ID: <xmqqimjukzzv.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200225220838.GB212281@google.com> (Emily Shaffer's message of "Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:08:38 -0800")

Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> writes:

> Hm. I guess I got the opposite impression from you way back in v1. I do
> wish it had been communicated a little more clearly; it's frustrating to
> perceive a reversal after seven months of review. But that's probably on
> my own reading comprehension :)

Well, seven months is a long time for anybody to learn from repeated
reading and gained experience to form an opinion and get affected by
others' opinions.  In any case, this is one of the reasons why I try
to discourage people to have too many topics in flight before moving
on to a new and different topic---the risk of ending up with fliping
and flopping is just too high when you give people chance to forget.
Rather, I'd prefer to see something simple to land first and then
later refined.

On this particular issue, I actually do not have a preference.  As
long as the topic has a coherent position/stance, any one of

 (a) we do as much i18n as possible to help end-users, or

 (b) we stay away from i18n to ensure the reports are machine
     readable, or

 (c) somewhere in between with a clear criterion where you are
     drawing the line (e.g. "the introductory text is what we want
     the end-user to read, so it is i18ned, but the report about
     their environment are primarily for our use and we avoid
     localizing so that we can process mechanically"),

is fine.  The important point is that we choose what we do with a
solid guiding principle behind the decision.

In practice, every string in bugreport.c you have control over the
use (or non-use) of _() around it, but codepaths that you call from
existing parts of the system are likely to have their messages
localized if they are meant for Porcelain use.  So from that point
of view, (a) would be easier to arrange than (b), I suspect.

Thanks.

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Thread overview: 273+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-13  0:42 [PATCH v4 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 20:51   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 21:36     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-16 22:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 22:34         ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-20  1:46     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 18:45   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-17 20:34     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-20  1:25       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:12   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-10  2:05   ` Aaron Schrab
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] bugreport: add glibc version Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 22:39     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] bugreport: add curl version Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 22:49     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 18:47   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 22:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:01     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17  0:41       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-15 20:17   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-16 22:52     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 18:38   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:40     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 17:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-24  3:29         ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-29 20:17   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:51     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:51   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:54     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:56     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34 ` [PATCH v5 00/15] add git-bugreport tool emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 01/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:18     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:00       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 02/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:19     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04  0:53       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 03/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:19     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:21       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 04/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:21     ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 05/15] bugreport: add uname info emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:21     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:51       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 19:47         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 07/15] bugreport: add curl version emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:27     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:54       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:28     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 23:16       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 20:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05 20:14         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:34     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  0:44       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 19:53         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-31 21:20     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  0:30       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05  0:52         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:36     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  1:34       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-31 21:25     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  2:31       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 20:12         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks emilyshaffer
2020-02-04 18:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  2:48       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05  3:00         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects emilyshaffer
2020-02-04 18:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  2:50       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary emilyshaffer
2020-02-04 19:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  3:15       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-04 19:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  3:09       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:38   ` [PATCH v5 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2020-01-28 23:04   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-01-28 23:26     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-30 22:15   ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04  0:07     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40   ` [PATCH v6 " Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 01/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  1:35       ` Danh Doan
2020-02-13 22:58         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-13 23:07           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-02-13 23:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-13 23:29               ` Eric Sunshine
2020-02-14  1:20                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 02/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 03/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 14:18       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-07 18:51         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-11 22:40           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 14:54       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-12 18:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-12 22:36         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 04/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 07/15] bugreport: add git-remote-https version Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 15:30       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-13 23:14         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 14:47       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-07 15:08         ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-07 16:24           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-02-07 16:51             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-02-13 22:02               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53     ` [PATCH v7 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 01/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 02/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 03/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 17:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-15  1:57           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-15 18:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-18 23:46               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-18 23:56                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 23:15                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 23:24                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-19 14:18         ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-19 16:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-19 21:52             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 22:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-19 23:06                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 04/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 14:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-19 22:45           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 22:33             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-20 23:33               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-21 15:22                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-22  0:04                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-24  2:55                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 07/15] bugreport: add git-remote-https version Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 14:28         ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-19 22:28           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 22:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 22:33               ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 17:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-18 23:59           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 17:32       ` [PATCH v7 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Junio C Hamano
2020-02-14 22:00         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 22:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58       ` [PATCH v8 " Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 01/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 02/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 19:03           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 21:15             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 03/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 19:33           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 22:33             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-26 16:12           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 04/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:07           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 23:03             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 23:18               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 23:20             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  2:49           ` Danh Doan
2020-02-20 23:23             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:23           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-21  0:26           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 07/15] bugreport: add git-remote-https version Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:35           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 23:28             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-21  3:44               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 22:08                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 22:26                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:29                     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 23:29                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2020-02-25 23:55                     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:40           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-26 16:13           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-26 16:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:19             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 21:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:22             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 23:26               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 22:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:58             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 22:18           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 14:08           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-20 22:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-02 23:03         ` [PATCH v9 0/5] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 1/5] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 2/5] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-03 14:18             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-04 21:35             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-05 23:34               ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-03-06 13:57                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-06 18:25                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-06 18:08                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-06 18:58                   ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-03-08 22:24                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-09 14:59                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-09 19:17                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-09 19:47                         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-10 11:42                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-10 18:37                             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-10 22:08                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-19 21:39               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-03-20  0:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-20 15:35                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-23 18:52                     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-03-20 15:42                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-23 18:50                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-03-20 17:43                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-20 22:38                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-20 22:47                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-21 10:53                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 3/5] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-23 21:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 4/5] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-02 23:04           ` [PATCH v9 5/5] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-03 11:46             ` Danh Doan
2020-03-03 14:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-04 21:39             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-23 21:27               ` Emily Shaffer

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