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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Sebastian Schuberth <sschuberth@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What is missing from Git v2.0
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:19:52 -0700
Message-ID: <xmqqioq12eif.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpqlhux3yhr.fsf@anie.imag.fr> (Matthieu Moy's message of "Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:22:56 +0200")

Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr> writes:

> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Why is not material for v2.0? Because you say so? Are you going to wait another
>> ten years to introduce this to v3.0?
>
> There's no need to wait for a 3.0 to introduce this. If these would
> be low-priority compared to user-defined aliases, there's no backward
> compatibility issue, it can very well be a 2.1, or whatever number comes
> after 2.0.

I do not think the discussion has analysed the issue deeply enough
for us to tell what the final proposal would look like, in order to
judge what kind of issues, whether related to backward compatibility
or not, are involved.  My hunch is that this may not have to wait
for a big version bump, but I am not sure about that at this point.

Also I do not think 3.0 has to wait for ten years, either.

We started discussing incompatible updates for 2.0 in earnest during
the v1.8.2 timeframe, which was tagged mid-March 2013 with a release
notes with a "B/c notes for 2.0" section, but IIRC the discussion of
many of the "let's make things consistent (even if that means we
have to break existing users), and devise ways to make the transtion
for them as smooth as possible" changes that finally is going to
happen in v2.0 have been in the works since the v1.7.x era (tagged
late January 2012).  While I do not want to rush things late in a
cycle (notice how many topics are still cooking in 'next' and will
continue to be in preparation for 2.1 right now), I do not think it
is warranted to have a panic "3.0 will be ten years out, and we will
miss the boat if we do not cram this in some shape into 2.0"---that
kind of haste simply is not necessary.

Even if we end up having to wait for 3.0, it will happen within two
years max, if not earlier.

  parent reply index

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-20 22:41 Felipe Contreras
2014-04-20 22:47 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:24 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-21 19:34   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:47     ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-21 20:45       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 20:46         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  7:23           ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-22  8:15             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22  7:19     ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-22  8:11       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 18:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22 19:23         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 20:22           ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-22 21:01             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 22:19             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2014-04-22 21:30           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-22 21:59             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 22:24               ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24  3:35                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  5:18                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 13:39                   ` Andreas Krey
2014-04-24 18:31                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:16                       ` David Kastrup
2014-04-22 22:25             ` David Lang
2014-04-24  3:37               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  3:51                 ` David Lang
2014-04-24  3:58                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  4:16                 ` James Denholm
2014-04-24  4:12                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  6:06                     ` James Denholm
2014-04-24  7:19                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  7:39                         ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24  8:23                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  9:01                             ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 18:28                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:20                                 ` David Lang
2014-04-24 13:41                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-24 15:00                               ` Stefan Beller
2014-04-24 15:47                                 ` tytso
2014-04-24 17:46                                   ` Stefan Beller
2014-04-24 18:02                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-24 18:26                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:15                                         ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 18:25                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 18:17                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  6:59                                   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-25  7:35                                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-24 18:38                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:55                               ` luc.linux
2014-04-25  2:22                                 ` Javier Domingo Cansino
2014-04-25  2:35                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  7:48                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25  7:52                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 13:35                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-25 14:23                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25 14:40                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-25 15:54                                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25 17:50                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 17:45                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 18:24                                           ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 18:27                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 18:57                                               ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 18:57                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 19:12                                                   ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 19:27                                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  5:13                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 15:41                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-25 15:59                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 16:14                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-22 22:03         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24  3:26           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  2:12   ` brian m. carlson
2014-04-22  5:10     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  5:19 ` David Aguilar
2014-04-22  5:38   ` Felipe Contreras

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