From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>,
Shaoxuan Yuan <shaoxuan.yuan02@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 11:47:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqlermwvus.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e719d1e1-1849-07bc-ea08-2729985e5048@github.com> (Derrick Stolee's message of "Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:43:54 -0400")
Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> writes:
>> It is a bit unintuitive, but '--sparse' is already used to mean "operate on
>> SKIP_WORKTREE entries (i.e., pretend the repo isn't a sparse-checkout)" in
>> both 'add' (0299a69694 (add: implement the --sparse option, 2021-09-24)) and
>> 'rm' (f9786f9b85 (rm: add --sparse option, 2021-09-24)). The
>> 'checkout-index' option '--ignore-skip-worktree-bits' indicates similar
>> behavior (and is, IMO, similarly confusing with its use of "ignore").
OK, I forgot about these precedents. "ignore skip worktree bits" is
quite a mouthful, but expresses what is going on quite clearly.
Instead of honoring the skip-worktree bit, behave as if they are not
set, so we bust the "sparse" boundary.
> The existing pattern here means that it isn't Shaoxuan's responsibility
> to pick a better name, but if we are interested in changing the name,
> then we have some work to replace the previous '--sparse' options with
> that name. I could do that replacement, assuming we land on a better name
> and are willing to have that change of behavior.
It all depends on how deeply the existing "--sparse" are anchored in
users' minds. If we have been with them for nearly a year and three
major releases, it is too late to casually "fix" without a proper
transition strategy, I am afraid. And I am not even sure if it is
worth the trouble.
In any case, let's leave it totally outside the scope of the topic.
As long as we are consistently unintuitive with "--sparse", then I
think we are OK, because users are malleable and can easily get used
to anything as long as it is consistent ;-)
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-17 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-17 7:56 [PATCH v1 0/2] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-17 7:56 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-17 14:12 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-17 17:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-17 17:34 ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-17 17:43 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-17 18:47 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-08-17 17:37 ` Elijah Newren
2022-08-24 18:20 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-24 19:08 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-17 7:56 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-17 14:23 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-24 21:06 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-25 0:39 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-17 13:46 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] grep: " Derrick Stolee
2022-08-29 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-29 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-29 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-30 13:45 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-01 4:57 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] grep: " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 4:57 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 4:57 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 4:57 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] builtin/grep.c: walking tree instead of expanding index with --sparse Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 17:03 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-01 18:31 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 17:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-01 17:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-01 22:49 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 22:36 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-02 3:28 ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-02 18:47 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03 0:36 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03 0:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03 0:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03 0:36 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] builtin/grep.c: walking tree instead of expanding index with --sparse Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03 4:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08 0:24 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08 0:18 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08 0:18 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-10 1:07 ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-14 6:08 ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-15 2:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-18 2:14 ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-18 19:52 ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-19 1:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19 4:27 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-19 11:03 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-20 7:13 ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-17 3:34 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-18 4:24 ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-19 4:13 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-17 3:45 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08 0:18 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08 0:18 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] builtin/grep.c: walking tree instead of expanding index with --sparse Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08 17:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08 20:46 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-08 20:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08 21:06 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-09 12:49 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-13 17:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-10 2:04 ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-23 4:18 ` [PATCH v6 0/1] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-23 4:18 ` [PATCH v6 1/1] builtin/grep.c: " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-23 16:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-23 16:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-26 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-23 14:13 ` [PATCH v6 0/1] grep: " Derrick Stolee
2022-09-23 16:01 ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-23 17:08 ` Junio C Hamano
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