From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: Pull is Evil Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:53:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4ay6w9i74cygt6ii1b0db7wg.1398433713382@email.android.com> <536106EA.5090204@xiplink.com> <536129068cc28_1404fdd310fd@nysa.notmuch> <5361416a172fe_f9b15012ec7e@nysa.notmuch> <53614fb5e204_2aa5fa32f0df@nysa.notmuch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Matthieu Moy , Marc Branchaud , Marat Radchenko , git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King To: Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Apr 30 21:53:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WfaZl-0001Rp-Ff for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:53:53 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759299AbaD3Txt (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:53:49 -0400 Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.35]:38407 "EHLO smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759042AbaD3Txr (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:53:47 -0400 Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D31F7FBFC; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:53:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=7Gwcy4wN5G2xpTQvjU0vAbd1/tU=; b=QmFlIt 3SLv03dXrDRzzhVrRyawliS/jiohoKUCUrgtMDopCqk2eA+MjXWNWTKUbgNOmtJq h30/3EIf/hAfHd1w5fopiM+4YJTW3slwFnQb4k4i7SSMHoRKkYImnD0HOlnqe7Rl UEbqaqhbuIO2nb5SG3A6G3/bhLtWG+hqltb8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=cKOtXUsUtaurhMbGym8MfsjGoUBRmP4A eaTojjeRKCoZe1gnqt7JZnX4XohwPYaeoiHJN9irhE3BU3XCbBYCXJ/hx+pDiXbJ 6bigMh87aKuPh7BngOnOS/DM/JA8jU1RQ4hVReVMyeM+GNZUlZ/zjYpwhz3zsSvf PRY2Emf40Kw= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6127FBFB; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [72.14.226.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA1FB7FBF7; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:53:44 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <53614fb5e204_2aa5fa32f0df@nysa.notmuch> (Felipe Contreras's message of "Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:32:05 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 232BCF94-D0A1-11E3-859C-0731802839F8-77302942!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Felipe Contreras writes: > Junio C Hamano wrote: >> Felipe Contreras writes: >> > Matthieu Moy wrote: >> >> Felipe Contreras writes: >> >> ... >> >> > Yes, this has been discussed many times in the past, and everyone agrees >> >> > the default behavior is not correct. >> >> >> >> You definitely have a strange notion of "everyone". > >> While I do not quite see the previous discussion as deciding the >> particular implementation is good without further tweaks, I would >> say that everybody agrees that the default behaviour is not good for >> everybody and therefore should (or for Linus, "it is OK to") change. > ... > I said 'everyone agrees the default behavior is not correct', which is > true. Isn't that what I said a few lines above? Why are you still arguing?