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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>,
	Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/5] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 10:25:14 -0800
Message-ID: <xmqqmu8t2ved.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2003061453260.46@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:57:52 +0100 (CET)")

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

> If we want `bugreport` to be a first-class citizen, we should
> treat it as such.  That entails making it a built-in.

The question is, for "bugreport", if it is better to be standalone
or to be built-in, and I do not think 'first-class' has anything to
do with the question.  The transport based on curl-library are
separate binaries but they are of course first-class citizens.

Pushing and fetching will happen a lot less often than local
operations like "add", "commit", "show", and not paying start-up
latencies to load code and link libraries that are not necessary for
local operations in built-in, while paying the cost of having to
duplicate the memory and disk footprint necessary for libgit.a stuff
by making the transport binaries separate from the built-ins, was
conscious implementation decision we made earlier to prioritize the
reduction of overhead of subcommands for local operation.  Yes, the
decision de-prioritizes the transport, but that does not mean they
are not first-class citizens.  It just means that the start-up
latency for them (e.g. linking with libcurl) is not huge burden for
the overall time cost for the network transfer, and it is necessary
cost for them to perform what they need to do anyway, while it is
something subcommands for local operations should not have to pay.

> That entails teaching
> `git-remote-https` (and potentially other non-builtins) to sprout that
> option to enquire other information that should be included in the
> generated part of the bug report.

I think later rounds of "git bugreports" already did so.

As I mentioned in a separate message to JeffH, this is a good thing
to do, whether "git bugreport" is a built-in or a standalone.




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Thread overview: 273+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-13  0:42 [PATCH v4 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 20:51   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 21:36     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-16 22:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 22:34         ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-20  1:46     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 18:45   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-17 20:34     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-20  1:25       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:12   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-10  2:05   ` Aaron Schrab
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] bugreport: add glibc version Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 22:39     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] bugreport: add curl version Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 22:49     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 18:47   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 22:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:01     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17  0:41       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-15 20:17   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-16 22:52     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 18:38   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:40     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-17 17:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-24  3:29         ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-29 20:17   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:51     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:51   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:54     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 21:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-16 23:56     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34 ` [PATCH v5 00/15] add git-bugreport tool emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 01/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:18     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:00       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 02/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:19     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04  0:53       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 03/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:19     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:21       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 04/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:21     ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 05/15] bugreport: add uname info emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:21     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:51       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 19:47         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 07/15] bugreport: add curl version emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:27     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 22:54       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:28     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04 23:16       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 20:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05 20:14         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:34     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  0:44       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 19:53         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-31 21:20     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  0:30       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05  0:52         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist emilyshaffer
2020-01-30 22:36     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  1:34       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-31 21:25     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-05  2:31       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05 20:12         ` Martin Ågren
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks emilyshaffer
2020-02-04 18:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  2:48       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-05  3:00         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects emilyshaffer
2020-02-04 18:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  2:50       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary emilyshaffer
2020-02-04 19:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  3:15       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-04 19:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  3:09       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:34   ` [PATCH v5 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file emilyshaffer
2020-01-24  3:38   ` [PATCH v5 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2020-01-28 23:04   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-01-28 23:26     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-30 22:15   ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04  0:07     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40   ` [PATCH v6 " Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 01/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  1:35       ` Danh Doan
2020-02-13 22:58         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-13 23:07           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-02-13 23:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-13 23:29               ` Eric Sunshine
2020-02-14  1:20                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 02/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 03/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 14:18       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-07 18:51         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-11 22:40           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 14:54       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-12 18:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-12 22:36         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 04/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:40     ` [PATCH v6 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 07/15] bugreport: add git-remote-https version Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 15:30       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-13 23:14         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2020-02-07 14:47       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-07 15:08         ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-07 16:24           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-02-07 16:51             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-02-13 22:02               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06  0:41     ` [PATCH v6 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53     ` [PATCH v7 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 01/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 02/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 03/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 17:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-15  1:57           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-15 18:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-18 23:46               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-18 23:56                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 23:15                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 23:24                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-19 14:18         ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-19 16:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-19 21:52             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 22:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-19 23:06                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 04/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 14:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-19 22:45           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 22:33             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-20 23:33               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-21 15:22                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-22  0:04                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-24  2:55                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 07/15] bugreport: add git-remote-https version Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 14:28         ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-19 22:28           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-19 22:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 22:33               ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 17:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-18 23:59           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14  1:53       ` [PATCH v7 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 17:32       ` [PATCH v7 00/15] add git-bugreport tool Junio C Hamano
2020-02-14 22:00         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 22:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58       ` [PATCH v8 " Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 01/15] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 02/15] help: add shell-path to --build-options Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 19:03           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 21:15             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 03/15] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 19:33           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 22:33             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-26 16:12           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 04/15] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:07           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 23:03             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 23:18               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 05/15] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 23:20             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 06/15] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  2:49           ` Danh Doan
2020-02-20 23:23             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:23           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-21  0:26           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 07/15] bugreport: add git-remote-https version Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:35           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20 23:28             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-21  3:44               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 22:08                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 22:26                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:29                     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 23:29                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:55                     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 08/15] bugreport: include user interactive shell Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 09/15] bugreport: generate config safelist based on docs Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:40           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-26 16:13           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-26 16:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 10/15] bugreport: add config values from safelist Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 11/15] bugreport: collect list of populated hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 20:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:19             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 12/15] bugreport: count loose objects Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 21:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:22             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 23:26               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 13/15] bugreport: add packed object summary Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 22:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 23:58             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 14/15] bugreport: list contents of $OBJDIR/info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 22:18           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-20  1:58         ` [PATCH v8 15/15] bugreport: summarize contents of alternates file Emily Shaffer
2020-02-20 14:08           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-20 22:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-02 23:03         ` [PATCH v9 0/5] add git-bugreport tool Emily Shaffer
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 1/5] help: move list_config_help to builtin/help Emily Shaffer
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 2/5] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-03 14:18             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-04 21:35             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-05 23:34               ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-03-06 13:57                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-06 18:25                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2020-03-06 18:08                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-06 18:58                   ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-03-08 22:24                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-09 14:59                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-09 19:17                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-09 19:47                         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-10 11:42                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-10 18:37                             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-10 22:08                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-19 21:39               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-03-20  0:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-20 15:35                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-23 18:52                     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-03-20 15:42                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-23 18:50                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-03-20 17:43                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-20 22:38                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-20 22:47                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-21 10:53                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 3/5] bugreport: gather git version and build info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-23 21:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-02 23:03           ` [PATCH v9 4/5] bugreport: add uname info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-02 23:04           ` [PATCH v9 5/5] bugreport: add compiler info Emily Shaffer
2020-03-03 11:46             ` Danh Doan
2020-03-03 14:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-04 21:39             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-03-23 21:27               ` Emily Shaffer

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