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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Han Xin" <chiyutianyi@gmail.com>,
	"Jiang Xin" <worldhello.net@gmail.com>,
	"René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.email>,
	"Neeraj Singh" <neerajsi@microsoft.com>,
	"Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 6/7] core doc: modernize core.bigFileThreshold documentation
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2022 12:50:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqpmjl6065.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <patch-v13-6.7-5ed79c58b18-20220604T095113Z-avarab@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IsOGdmFyIEFybmZqw7Zyw7A=?= Bjarmason"'s message of "Sat, 4 Jun 2022 12:10:27 +0200")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> So let's attempt to summarize 12 years of changes in behavior, which
> can be seen with:
>
>     git log --oneline -Gbig_file_thre 5eef828bc03.. -- '*.c'
>
> To do that turn this into a bullet-point list. The summary Han Xin
> produced in [1] helped a lot, but is a bit too detailed for
> documentation aimed at users. Let's instead summarize how
> user-observable behavior differs, and generally describe how we tend
> to stream these files in various commands.

Nicely studied.  Very much appreciated.

>  core.bigFileThreshold::
> -	Files larger than this size are stored deflated, without
> -	attempting delta compression.  Storing large files without
> -	delta compression avoids excessive memory usage, at the
> -	slight expense of increased disk usage. Additionally files
> -	larger than this size are always treated as binary.
> +	The size of files considered "big", which as discussed below
> +	changes the behavior of numerous git commands, as well as how
> +	such files are stored within the repository. The default is
> +	512 MiB. Common unit suffixes of 'k', 'm', or 'g' are
> +	supported.
>  +
> -Default is 512 MiB on all platforms.  This should be reasonable
> -for most projects as source code and other text files can still
> -be delta compressed, but larger binary media files won't be.
> +Files above the configured limit will be:
>  +
> -Common unit suffixes of 'k', 'm', or 'g' are supported.
> +* Stored deflated, without attempting delta compression.

"even in packfiles" (with or without "even") is better be there in
the sentence---loose objects are always stored deflated anyway.

> +The default limit is primarily set with this use-case in mind. With it
> +most projects will have their source code and other text files delta
> +compressed, but not larger binary media files.
> ++
> +Storing large files without delta compression avoids excessive memory
> +usage, at the slight expense of increased disk usage.

> +* Will be treated as if though they were labeled "binary" (see
> +  linkgit:gitattributes[5]). This means that e.g. linkgit:git-log[1]
> +  and linkgit:git-diff[1] will not diffs for files above this limit.

Good.  You can lose three words "This means that" and the sentence
means the same thing, so lose them (I always recommend people to
reread the sentence when they write "This means that" with an eye to
rewrite it better---it often is a sign that either the previous
sentence is insufficiently clear, in which case it can be discarded
and description after the three words can be enhanced to a better
result).

> +* Will be generally be streamed when written, which avoids excessive
> +memory usage, at the cost of some fixed overhead. Commands that make
> +use of this include linkgit:git-archive[1],
> +linkgit:git-fast-import[1], linkgit:git-index-pack[1] and
> +linkgit:git-fsck[1].

Nice.  And this series adds unpack-objects to the mix.

>  core.excludesFile::
>  	Specifies the pathname to the file that contains patterns to

Excellent.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-06 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 211+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-09  8:20 [PATCH] unpack-objects: unpack large object in stream Han Xin
2021-10-19  7:37 ` Han Xin
2021-10-20 14:42 ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-21  3:42   ` Han Xin
2021-10-21 22:47     ` Philip Oakley
2021-11-03  1:48 ` Han Xin
2021-11-03 10:07   ` Philip Oakley
2021-11-12  9:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] object-file: refactor write_loose_object() to support inputstream Han Xin
2021-11-18  4:59   ` Jiang Xin
2021-11-18  6:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-12  9:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] object-file.c: add dry_run mode for write_loose_object() Han Xin
2021-11-18  5:42   ` Jiang Xin
2021-11-12  9:40 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] object-file.c: handle nil oid in write_loose_object() Han Xin
2021-11-18  5:49   ` Jiang Xin
2021-11-12  9:40 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] object-file.c: read input stream repeatedly " Han Xin
2021-11-18  5:56   ` Jiang Xin
2021-11-12  9:40 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] object-store.h: add write_loose_object() Han Xin
2021-11-12  9:40 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] unpack-objects: unpack large object in stream Han Xin
2021-11-18  7:14   ` Jiang Xin
2021-11-22  3:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] unpack large objects " Han Xin
2021-11-29  7:01   ` Han Xin
2021-11-29 19:12     ` Jeff King
2021-11-30  2:57       ` Han Xin
2021-12-03  9:35   ` [PATCH v4 " Han Xin
2021-12-07 16:18     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-10 10:34     ` [PATCH v5 0/6] unpack large blobs " Han Xin
2021-12-17 11:26       ` Han Xin
2021-12-21 11:51         ` [PATCH v7 0/5] " Han Xin
2021-12-21 11:51         ` [PATCH v7 1/5] unpack-objects.c: add dry_run mode for get_data() Han Xin
2021-12-21 14:09           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-21 14:43             ` René Scharfe
2021-12-21 15:04               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22 11:15               ` Jiang Xin
2021-12-22 11:29             ` Jiang Xin
2021-12-31  3:06           ` Jiang Xin
2021-12-21 11:51         ` [PATCH v7 2/5] object-file API: add a format_object_header() function Han Xin
2021-12-21 14:30           ` René Scharfe
2022-02-01 14:28             ` C99 %z (was: [PATCH v7 2/5] object-file API: add a format_object_header() function) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-31  3:12           ` [PATCH v7 2/5] object-file API: add a format_object_header() function Jiang Xin
2021-12-21 11:51         ` [PATCH v7 3/5] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to reuse in stream version Han Xin
2021-12-21 14:16           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22 12:02             ` Jiang Xin
2021-12-21 11:52         ` [PATCH v7 4/5] object-file.c: add "write_stream_object_file()" to support read in stream Han Xin
2021-12-21 14:20           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-21 15:05             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-21 11:52         ` [PATCH v7 5/5] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2021-12-21 15:06           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-31  3:19           ` Jiang Xin
2022-01-08  8:54         ` [PATCH v8 0/6] unpack large blobs in stream Han Xin
2022-01-20 11:21           ` [PATCH v9 0/5] " Han Xin
2022-02-01 21:24             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-02  8:32               ` Han Xin
2022-02-02 10:59                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 14:07             ` [PATCH v10 0/6] unpack-objects: support streaming large objects to disk Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 14:07               ` [PATCH v10 1/6] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 14:07               ` [PATCH v10 2/6] object-file.c: do fsync() and close() before post-write die() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 14:07               ` [PATCH v10 3/6] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 14:07               ` [PATCH v10 4/6] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 14:07               ` [PATCH v10 5/6] core doc: modernize core.bigFileThreshold documentation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 14:07               ` [PATCH v10 6/6] unpack-objects: use stream_loose_object() to unpack large objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23               ` [PATCH v11 0/8] unpack-objects: support streaming blobs to disk Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] object-file.c: do fsync() and close() before post-write die() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19 10:11                   ` René Scharfe
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] object-file.c: factor out deflate part of write_loose_object() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] core doc: modernize core.bigFileThreshold documentation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] unpack-objects: refactor away unpack_non_delta_entry() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-19  0:23                 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] unpack-objects: use stream_loose_object() to unpack large objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 13:56                 ` [PATCH v12 0/8] unpack-objects: support streaming blobs to disk Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 1/8] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 2/8] object-file.c: do fsync() and close() before post-write die() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 3/8] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-30  7:13                     ` Han Xin
2022-03-30 17:34                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 4/8] object-file.c: factor out deflate part of write_loose_object() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 5/8] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-31 19:54                     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 6/8] core doc: modernize core.bigFileThreshold documentation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 7/8] unpack-objects: refactor away unpack_non_delta_entry() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-30 19:40                     ` René Scharfe
2022-03-31 12:42                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-31 16:38                         ` René Scharfe
2022-03-29 13:56                   ` [PATCH v12 8/8] unpack-objects: use stream_loose_object() to unpack large objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-04 10:10                   ` [PATCH v13 0/7] unpack-objects: support streaming blobs to disk Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-04 10:10                     ` [PATCH v13 1/7] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-06 18:35                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-09  4:10                         ` Han Xin
2022-06-09 18:27                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-10  1:50                             ` Han Xin
2022-06-10  2:05                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-10 12:04                                 ` Han Xin
2022-06-04 10:10                     ` [PATCH v13 2/7] object-file.c: do fsync() and close() before post-write die() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-06 18:45                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-04 10:10                     ` [PATCH v13 3/7] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-04 10:10                     ` [PATCH v13 4/7] object-file.c: factor out deflate part of write_loose_object() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-04 10:10                     ` [PATCH v13 5/7] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-06 19:44                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-06 20:02                         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-09  6:04                           ` Han Xin
2022-06-09  6:14                         ` Han Xin
2022-06-07 19:53                       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-06-08 15:34                         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-09  3:05                         ` [RFC PATCH] object-file.c: batched disk flushes for stream_loose_object() Han Xin
2022-06-09  7:35                           ` Neeraj Singh
2022-06-09  9:30                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-06-10 12:55                             ` Han Xin
2022-06-04 10:10                     ` [PATCH v13 6/7] core doc: modernize core.bigFileThreshold documentation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-06 19:50                       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-06-04 10:10                     ` [PATCH v13 7/7] unpack-objects: use stream_loose_object() to unpack large objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-10 14:46                     ` [PATCH v14 0/7] unpack-objects: support streaming blobs to disk Han Xin
2022-06-10 14:46                       ` [PATCH v14 1/7] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Han Xin
2022-06-10 14:46                       ` [PATCH v14 2/7] object-file.c: do fsync() and close() before post-write die() Han Xin
2022-06-10 21:10                         ` René Scharfe
2022-06-10 21:33                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-11  1:50                             ` Han Xin
2022-06-10 14:46                       ` [PATCH v14 3/7] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Han Xin
2022-06-10 14:46                       ` [PATCH v14 4/7] object-file.c: factor out deflate part of write_loose_object() Han Xin
2022-06-10 14:46                       ` [PATCH v14 5/7] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Han Xin
2022-06-10 14:46                       ` [PATCH v14 6/7] core doc: modernize core.bigFileThreshold documentation Han Xin
2022-06-10 21:01                         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-10 14:46                       ` [PATCH v14 7/7] unpack-objects: use stream_loose_object() to unpack large objects Han Xin
2022-06-11  2:44                       ` [PATCH v15 0/6] unpack-objects: support streaming blobs to disk Han Xin
2022-06-11  2:44                         ` [PATCH v15 1/6] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Han Xin
2022-06-11  2:44                         ` [PATCH v15 2/6] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Han Xin
2022-06-11  2:44                         ` [PATCH v15 3/6] object-file.c: factor out deflate part of write_loose_object() Han Xin
2022-06-11  2:44                         ` [PATCH v15 4/6] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Han Xin
2022-06-11  2:44                         ` [PATCH v15 5/6] core doc: modernize core.bigFileThreshold documentation Han Xin
2022-06-11  2:44                         ` [PATCH v15 6/6] unpack-objects: use stream_loose_object() to unpack large objects Han Xin
2022-07-01  2:01                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-20  3:05                 ` [PATCH 0/1] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Han Xin
2022-05-20  3:05                   ` [PATCH 1/1] " Han Xin
2022-01-20 11:21           ` [PATCH v9 1/5] " Han Xin
2022-01-20 11:21           ` [PATCH v9 2/5] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Han Xin
2022-01-20 11:21           ` [PATCH v9 3/5] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Han Xin
2022-01-20 11:21           ` [PATCH v9 4/5] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2022-01-20 11:21           ` [PATCH v9 5/5] object-file API: add a format_object_header() function Han Xin
2022-01-08  8:54         ` [PATCH v8 1/6] unpack-objects: low memory footprint for get_data() in dry_run mode Han Xin
2022-01-08 12:28           ` René Scharfe
2022-01-11 10:41             ` Han Xin
2022-01-08  8:54         ` [PATCH v8 2/6] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to several steps Han Xin
2022-01-08 12:28           ` René Scharfe
2022-01-11 10:33             ` Han Xin
2022-01-08  8:54         ` [PATCH v8 3/6] object-file.c: remove the slash for directory_size() Han Xin
2022-01-08 17:24           ` René Scharfe
2022-01-11 10:14             ` Han Xin
2022-01-08  8:54         ` [PATCH v8 4/6] object-file.c: add "stream_loose_object()" to handle large object Han Xin
2022-01-08  8:54         ` [PATCH v8 5/6] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2022-01-08  8:54         ` [PATCH v8 6/6] object-file API: add a format_object_header() function Han Xin
2021-12-17 11:26       ` [PATCH v6 1/6] object-file.c: release strbuf in write_loose_object() Han Xin
2021-12-17 19:28         ` René Scharfe
2021-12-18  0:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-17 11:26       ` [PATCH v6 2/6] object-file.c: refactor object header generation into a function Han Xin
2021-12-20 12:10         ` [RFC PATCH] object-file API: add a format_loose_header() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-20 12:48           ` Philip Oakley
2021-12-20 22:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-21  1:42             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-21  2:11               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-21  2:27                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-21 11:43           ` Han Xin
2021-12-17 11:26       ` [PATCH v6 3/6] object-file.c: refactor write_loose_object() to reuse in stream version Han Xin
2021-12-17 11:26       ` [PATCH v6 4/6] object-file.c: make "write_object_file_flags()" to support read in stream Han Xin
2021-12-17 22:52         ` René Scharfe
2021-12-17 11:26       ` [PATCH v6 5/6] unpack-objects.c: add dry_run mode for get_data() Han Xin
2021-12-17 21:22         ` René Scharfe
2021-12-17 11:26       ` [PATCH v6 6/6] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2021-12-10 10:34     ` [PATCH v5 1/6] object-file: refactor write_loose_object() to support read from stream Han Xin
2021-12-10 10:34     ` [PATCH v5 2/6] object-file.c: handle undetermined oid in write_loose_object() Han Xin
2021-12-13  7:32       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-10 10:34     ` [PATCH v5 3/6] object-file.c: read stream in a loop " Han Xin
2021-12-10 10:34     ` [PATCH v5 4/6] unpack-objects.c: add dry_run mode for get_data() Han Xin
2021-12-10 10:34     ` [PATCH v5 5/6] object-file.c: make "write_object_file_flags()" to support "HASH_STREAM" Han Xin
2021-12-10 10:34     ` [PATCH v5 6/6] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2021-12-13  8:05       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03  9:35   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] object-file: refactor write_loose_object() to read buffer from stream Han Xin
2021-12-03 13:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-06  2:07       ` Han Xin
2021-12-03  9:35   ` [PATCH v4 2/5] object-file.c: handle undetermined oid in write_loose_object() Han Xin
2021-12-03 13:21     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-06  2:51       ` Han Xin
2021-12-03 13:41     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-06  3:12       ` Han Xin
2021-12-03  9:35   ` [PATCH v4 3/5] object-file.c: read stream in a loop " Han Xin
2021-12-03  9:35   ` [PATCH v4 4/5] unpack-objects.c: add dry_run mode for get_data() Han Xin
2021-12-03 13:59     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-06  3:20       ` Han Xin
2021-12-03  9:35   ` [PATCH v4 5/5] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2021-12-03 13:07     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07  6:42       ` Han Xin
2021-12-03 13:54     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07  6:17       ` Han Xin
2021-12-03 14:05     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07  6:48       ` Han Xin
2021-11-22  3:32 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] object-file: refactor write_loose_object() to read buffer from stream Han Xin
2021-11-23 23:24   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-24  9:00     ` Han Xin
2021-11-22  3:32 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] object-file.c: handle undetermined oid in write_loose_object() Han Xin
2021-11-29 15:10   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 20:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-29 22:18       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-30  3:23         ` Han Xin
2021-11-22  3:32 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] object-file.c: read stream in a loop " Han Xin
2021-11-22  3:32 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] unpack-objects.c: add dry_run mode for get_data() Han Xin
2021-11-22  3:32 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2021-11-29 17:37   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-30 13:49     ` Han Xin
2021-11-30 18:38       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-01 20:37         ` "git hyperfine" (was: [PATCH v3 5/5] unpack-objects[...]) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-02  7:33         ` [PATCH v3 5/5] unpack-objects: unpack_non_delta_entry() read data in a stream Han Xin
2021-12-02 13:53           ` Derrick Stolee

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