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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] range-diff/format-patch: refactor check for commit range
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:25:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqzh0v1ox4.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210125212525.dpnsj7ejngvpkd5y@pengutronix.de> ("Uwe =?utf-8?Q?Kleine-K=C3=B6nig=22's?= message of "Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:25:25 +0100")

Uwe Kleine-König <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> writes:

>> > My POV is that if it's easy to use the same function (and so the same
>> > set of range descriptors) for git log and git range-diff then do so.
>> > This yields a consistent behaviour which is IMHO better than preventing
>> > people to do things that are considered strange today.
>> 
>> ... I am OK with that point of view.  It certainly is simpler to
>> explain to end users.
>
> It seems you understood my argument :-)

So it seems ;-).

>> Having said that, it would make it much harder to implement
>> efficiently, though.  For example, when your user says
>> 
>> 	git range-diff A B
>> 
>> to compare "git log A" (all the way down to the root) and "git log
>> B" (likewise), you'd certainly optimize the older common part of the
>> history out, essentially turning it into
>> 
>> 	git range-diff A..B B..A
>> 
>> or its moral equivalent
>> 
>> 	git range-diff A...B
>> 
>> But you cannot apply such an optimization blindly.  When the user
>> gives A..B and B..A as two args, you somehow need to notice that 
>> you shouldn't rewrite it to "A..B...B..A", and for that, you'd still
>> need some "parsing" of these args.
>
> I agree that for a long history
>
> 	git range-diff A B
>
> is an expensive request and I wouldn't invest too many cycles optimizing
> it.

Well, your devil's advocate can argue that accepting an input that
can easily make the tool unusable would be irresponsible, though.

And there are two possible ways out:

 (1) declare that optimizing "A B" into "A...B" is way too difficult
     to do in general, and find a good enough way to see if A and B
     individually gives a "range" that should be manageable; or

 (2) invest cycles to optimize, so your users do not have to care.

I think the series takes the former approach, and I find it
understandable.

It is a different matter if the way found and implemented in the
patch is "good enough" to tell if a given argument names a
manageable range.  You said something about "rev^{/^here are
two..dots}" that can be mistaken as a "good enough" range, but it
actually names a revision and all the way down to the root.

> (And if I'd optimize it, it wouldn't be done using textual
> combination of the two strings but by checking if the two ranges
> intersect.

Yup, that is in line with what I mumbled earlier about
setup_revisions() and inspecting the rev_info.pending, I think.

>> So, I dunno.  Limiting the second form to only forms that the
>> implementation does not have to do such optimization would certainly
>> make it simpler for Dscho to implement ;-)
>
> I don't want to make it more complicated for Dscho, I'm happy if I can
> in the near future use range-diff with $rev1^! $ref2^! . So feel free to
> ignore me.
>
> Best regards
> Uwe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-26 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-21 22:20 [PATCH 0/3] Range diff with ranges lacking dotdot Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-21 22:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] range-diff: refactor check for commit range Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-21 23:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-22 19:12   ` Phillip Wood
2021-01-22 21:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-23 15:59       ` Phillip Wood
2021-01-26 15:19         ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-21 22:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] range-diff: handle commit ranges other than A..B Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-21 23:37   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-01-22 16:12     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-21 23:42   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-22 16:20     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-21 22:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] range-diff(docs): explain how to specify commit ranges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-21 23:46   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-22 16:21     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-22 18:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  3:01         ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-28  5:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-22 18:20   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-01-26 15:22     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-22  7:31 ` [PATCH 0/3] Range diff with ranges lacking dotdot Uwe Kleine-König
2021-01-22 18:16 ` [PATCH v2 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-22 18:16   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] range-diff/format-patch: refactor check for commit range Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-22 20:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-25  7:35       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-01-25 19:24         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-25 21:25           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-01-26 19:25             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-01-22 18:16   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] range-diff/format-patch: handle commit ranges other than A..B Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-22 20:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  2:57       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-28  5:57         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-28 15:38           ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]             ` <xmqqim7gx41d.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>
2021-02-06  0:39               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-22 18:16   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] range-diff(docs): explain how to specify commit ranges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 16:37   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Range diff with ranges lacking dotdot Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 16:37     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] range-diff/format-patch: refactor check for commit range Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 16:37     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] range-diff/format-patch: handle commit ranges other than A..B Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 16:37     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] range-diff(docs): explain how to specify commit ranges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-04  9:31     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Range diff with ranges lacking dotdot Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-04  9:31       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] range-diff/format-patch: refactor check for commit range Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-04 18:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-04 19:27           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-02-04  9:31       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] range-diff/format-patch: handle commit ranges other than A..B Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-04 18:51         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-04 21:42           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-02-04 18:58         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-04 21:57           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-02-04  9:31       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] range-diff(docs): explain how to specify commit ranges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-04 18:53         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-04 21:58           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-02-04 22:42             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-04 23:29       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Range diff with ranges lacking dotdot Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-04 23:29         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] range-diff/format-patch: refactor check for commit range Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-04 23:29         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] range-diff/format-patch: handle commit ranges other than A..B Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-05  1:07           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05  1:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05 14:09               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-02-04 23:29         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] range-diff(docs): explain how to specify commit ranges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-05 14:44         ` [PATCH v6 0/3] Range diff with ranges lacking dotdot Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-05 14:44           ` [PATCH v6 1/3] range-diff/format-patch: refactor check for commit range Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-05 14:44           ` [PATCH v6 2/3] range-diff/format-patch: handle commit ranges other than A..B Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-05 14:44           ` [PATCH v6 3/3] range-diff(docs): explain how to specify commit ranges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget

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