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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What's cooking in git.git (Aug 2018, #06; Wed, 29)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 08:44:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqzhx36er2.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BG1VCmCMHe=5qayS0G_Z_=e8aVQ121LWuo-OBuiUxiCYg@mail.gmail.com> (Elijah Newren's message of "Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:22:43 -0700")

Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:

>>  Recent addition of "directory rename" heuristics to the
>>  merge-recursive backend makes the command susceptible to false
>>  positives and false negatives, but the risk is even more grave when
>>  used in the context of "git am -3", which does not know about any
>>  surrounding unmodified paths while inspecting a patch.  The
>>  heuristic is disabled to keep the machinery "more stupid but
>>  predicable".
>
> I had separate comments about the SQUASH patch in the relevant thread,
> but I've got a few comments on the release note itself, which I hope
> are helpful:

Yes indeed.

> - Perhaps change the last sentence to '...heuristic is disabled for
> "git am -3" to keep...', just to be slightly more clear about where it
> is disabled?

Yes, indeed that is a very good idea.

> - Small spelling error: s/predicable/predictable/

This too.

> - Do we really want to say "even more" here?  I'd rather we left those
> two words off or found another rewording.  Obviously, I'm biased, but
> there's more than just my own opinion of and vested interest in the
> directory rename detection feature.  I'm afraid users may interpret
> this sentence as saying the git project feels we've shipped a
> generally bad/unsafe feature, but are only taking corrective action in
> the most egregious of cases.  That seems to me like a scary message to
> send.  Maybe I'm just mis-reading what you meant, but I wanted to at
> least check what you meant here and, if that meaning was not
> intentional, ask whether we could improve the wording.

I am biased towards "keep it stupid and simple and predictable"
camp, and want to make sure that users do not to blindly trust
overly-clever behaviour of the tool.  As heuristics can always make
mistakes either way, I felt that not saying "more" would be sending
the opposite message---"in normal cases, dir-rename code will notice
presence or absense of whole-directory renames without mistakes but
when used in 'am -3' it misbehaves".

But it was not my intention to say "it is generally bad/unsafe".  I
just wanted to make sure that the users would understand it is "not
fool-proof and can make mistakes".

Suggestions for a better rewrite is very much appreciated.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-30 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-29 22:35 What's cooking in git.git (Aug 2018, #06; Wed, 29) Junio C Hamano
2018-08-30  0:22 ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-30 15:44   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2018-08-30 16:11     ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-31 19:53       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-01  4:32       ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-08-30 14:01 ` es/format-patch-{inter,range}diff, was " Johannes Schindelin
2018-09-03  4:23 ` Stephen & Linda Smith

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