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From: Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: [MODERATED] ...
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 16:44:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4dea960-d09a-d598-a4f0-3d7421822212@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191022172644.hyplx23aqpu7awxg@treble>

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 01/10] TAAv7 1

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On 10/22/19 1:26 PM, speck for Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 01:23:02PM -0700, speck for Pawan Gupta wrote:
>> From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
>> Subject: [PATCH v7 01/10] x86/tsx: Add enumeration support for IA32_TSX_CTRL
>>  MSR
>>
>> Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX) may be used on certain
>> processors as part of a speculative side channel attack.  A microcode
>> update for existing processors that are vulnerable to this attack will
>> add a new MSR, IA32_TSX_CTRL to allow the system administrator the
>> option to disable TSX as one of the possible mitigations.  [Note that
>> future processors that are not vulnerable will also support the
>> IA32_TSX_CTRL MSR].
> 
> This should clarify that not *all* TAA-vulnerable CPUs will get
> IA32_TSX_CTRL, instead only the ones which aren't vulnerable to MDS.

And FYI this is a change from what Intel had originally said. I think
we're all on the same page now that IA32_TSX_CTRL is only going to exist
on a small number of processors (those with MDS_NO=1 vulnerable to TAA).
We need a comprehensive list of designs in flight shared at some point
(privately) too, so that vendors can prepare documentation ahead.

I believe IA32_TSX_CTRL will be implemented going forward, even on next
generation processors without TAA. Please document that this control
interface is going to persist if that is indeed still the plan.

Jon.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-22 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-21 20:22 [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 00/10] TAAv7 0 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:23 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 01/10] TAAv7 1 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:24 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 02/10] TAAv7 2 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:25 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 03/10] TAAv7 3 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:26 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:27 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 05/10] TAAv7 5 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:28 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 06/10] TAAv7 6 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:29 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 07/10] TAAv7 7 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:30 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 08/10] TAAv7 8 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:31 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 09/10] TAAv7 9 Michal Hocko
2019-10-21 20:32 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 10/10] TAAv7 10 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 21:32 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 00/10] TAAv7 0 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-21 23:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-22  0:34   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22  4:10 ` [MODERATED] Jon Masters
2019-10-22  5:53   ` [MODERATED] Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22  7:58 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v7 07/10] TAAv7 7 Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 16:55   ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22  8:00 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v7 09/10] TAAv7 9 Michal Hocko
2019-10-22  8:15 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v7 03/10] TAAv7 3 Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 14:42   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 16:48     ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 17:01       ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 17:35         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 14:38 ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 16:58   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 14:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:00   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 17:16     ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 18:07       ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 15:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 18:36   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 18:59     ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 16:51 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 18:00     ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 18:12       ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 19:16         ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-22 19:28           ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 20:02             ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-22 20:48               ` [MODERATED] Jon Masters
2019-10-22 20:54               ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 21:38                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 21:46                   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 22:06                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 22:13                       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:44   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 19:04     ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 21:29       ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 21:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 22:05           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23  0:27             ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23  5:25               ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23  6:46                 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 13:28                   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23 14:39                     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23  1:33   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23  6:48     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:25 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 01/10] TAAv7 1 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23  9:26   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 20:44   ` Jon Masters [this message]
2019-10-22 17:47 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 03/10] TAAv7 3 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 18:39 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 10/10] TAAv7 10 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23  7:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 21:20 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 21:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-22 21:44     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 22:03       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-23  1:16         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23 15:46 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 00/10] TAAv7 0 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 17:11   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23 21:49     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 22:12   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 14:08     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found] ` <5dae165e.1c69fb81.4beee.e271SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-24 20:53   ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 06/10] TAAv7 6 Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-24 21:00     ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-24 21:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-01 16:35 [MODERATED] Jon Masters

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