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From: Arvind Sankar <nivedita-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Sergey Shatunov <me-fHUSW+XspFU@public.gmane.org>,
	hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	linux-efi <linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Donovan Tremura
	<neurognostic-g/b1ySJe57IkP3XJZ0H8fw@public.gmane.org>,
	Harald Hoyer <harald-PnQE6hpDOpmlVyrhU4qvOw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from bzImage
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 12:01:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200406160148.GB113388@rani.riverdale.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXG+34-bK1XuxX5VopkRt1SV1ewUAEmif+aQj5cJQ=9vbA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 03:29:18PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, it may be sufficient to #define __efistub_global to
> > > > __section(.data) like we already do for ARM, to ensure that these
> > > > global flags are always initialized correctly. (I'll wait for Sergey
> > > > to confirm that the spurious enabling of the PCI DMA protection
> > > > resulting from this BSS issue is causing the boot regression)
> >
> > Yeah I thought of that as the easiest fix, but it might be safer to
> > explicitly zero-init in efi_main to avoid future problems in case
> > someone adds another variable in bss and isn't aware of this obscure
> > requirement. We actually already have sys_table in bss, but that one is
> > always initialized. There's also other globals that aren't annotated
> > (but not in bss by virtue of having initializers). What do you think?
> >
> 
> *If* we zero init BSS, I'd prefer for it to be done in the EFI
> handover protocol entrypoint only. But does that fix the issue that
> BSS lives outside of the memory footprint of the kernel image?
> 

Yes, I was thinking of only doing it if we didn't come through the
pe_entry. We could also avoid re-parsing the command line if we add a
global flag to indicate that.

Regarding the memory footprint, if there's no initrd that might be a
problem, since in that case ImageSize will only cover the actual data
from the bzImage, so it would be safer to move them to data (including
sys_table).

We could just pull the stub's bss section all into data with objcopy
similar to what ARM64 does [1]? i.e. rename .bss to .bss.efistub and
then pull that into .data in the linker script for the compressed
kernel?

There is also this scary looking comment in gnu-efi's linker script:
	/* the EFI loader doesn't seem to like a .bss section, so we stick
	   it all into .data: */
I don't know what the history of that is.

[1] As an aside, why doesn't ARM do this as well rather than using the
section(.data) annotation?

> 
> > What do you think of the other problem -- that's actually worse to fix,
> > as it won't just be when kaslr is disabled, the startup_64 code will do
> > relocation to the end of init_size and clobber the initrd before getting
> > to the kaslr code, so it will break as soon as the firmware loads the
> > "unified kernel image" at a 2Mb-aligned address. The only thing I can
> > think of is to just unconditionally call efi_relocate_kernel if we were
> > entered via handover_entry?
> >
> 
> Yes, that seems to be the most robust approach.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-06 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200109150218.16544-1-nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
     [not found] ` <20200405154245.11972-1-me@prok.pw>
     [not found]   ` <20200405231845.GA3095309@rani.riverdale.lan>
     [not found]     ` <c692eea9213172d8ef937322b02ff585b0dfea82.camel@prok.pw>
     [not found]       ` <c692eea9213172d8ef937322b02ff585b0dfea82.camel-fHUSW+XspFU@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06  3:51         ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from bzImage Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06  7:32           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06  8:47             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]               ` <20200406084738.GA2520-Jj63ApZU6fQ@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06  9:11                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                   ` <CAMj1kXHAieZDvPKfjF=J+G=QVS+=XS-b4RP_=mjCEFEB_E_+Qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 11:20                     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-06 13:22                       ` Arvind Sankar
     [not found]                         ` <20200406132215.GA113388-ZaHV2fEG+eCZQHugZx4kin66tl449arB@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 13:29                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                             ` <CAMj1kXG+34-bK1XuxX5VopkRt1SV1ewUAEmif+aQj5cJQ=9vbA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 16:01                               ` Arvind Sankar [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <20200406160148.GB113388-ZaHV2fEG+eCZQHugZx4kin66tl449arB@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 16:22                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                     ` <CAMj1kXFKDWB9n0kWhXHLH0XP0O1v_0b=bFJad=kBvx2qVxqDcQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 16:52                                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 16:59                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                           ` <CAMj1kXEUkJ1XJ9OTsijeq8tNNYC00bXqEV44OMtX5ugo9WoLKA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 18:06                                             ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 18:06                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] efi/x86: Always relocate the kernel for EFI handover entry Arvind Sankar
     [not found]                                               ` <20200406180614.429454-1-nivedita-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-06 18:29                                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-08  7:43                                                 ` Dave Young
     [not found]                                                   ` <20200408074334.GA21886-0VdLhd/A9Pl+NNSt+8eSiB/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-08  7:49                                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-09 14:39                                                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-09 14:47                                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAMj1kXEm=E6B+kjZktG=sBPLQ=_HFfUz6KFLskNGzRnuMjn0gA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-09 16:35                                                             ` Arvind Sankar
     [not found]                                                               ` <20200409163530.GA785575-ZaHV2fEG+eCZQHugZx4kin66tl449arB@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-10 14:47                                                                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-10 15:26                                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                                                     ` <CAMj1kXHMQgnmdoA+qKLGa=gYg4J2p-DU3-K1LiM=AT61pi+Fvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-04-14 14:57                                                                       ` Daniel Kiper
2020-04-10 11:26                                               ` Thomas Meyer
2020-04-10 14:38                                                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-11  8:50                                                   ` Thomas Meyer
2020-04-06 17:21                               ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from bzImage Borislav Petkov

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