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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Segher Boessenkool' <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
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Subject: RE: Buggy commit tracked to: "Re: [PATCH 2/9] iov_iter: move rw_copy_check_uvector() into lib/iov_iter.c"
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:12:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c642593ca08469f8c00c0de10a09540@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201024172903.GK2672@gate.crashing.org>

From: Segher Boessenkool
> Sent: 24 October 2020 18:29
> 
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 09:28:59PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Segher Boessenkool
> > > Sent: 23 October 2020 19:27
> > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 06:58:57PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 03:09:30PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > On arm64 when callee expects a 32bit argument, the caller is *not* responsible
> > > > for clearing the upper half of 64bit register used to pass the value - it only
> > > > needs to store the actual value into the lower half.  The callee must consider
> > > > the contents of the upper half of that register as undefined.  See AAPCS64 (e.g.
> > > > https://github.com/ARM-software/abi-aa/blob/master/aapcs64/aapcs64.rst#parameter-passing-rules
> > > > ); AFAICS, the relevant bit is
> > > > 	"Unlike in the 32-bit AAPCS, named integral values must be narrowed by
> > > > the callee rather than the caller."
> > >
> > > Or the formal rule:
> > >
> > > C.9 	If the argument is an Integral or Pointer Type, the size of the
> > > 	argument is less than or equal to 8 bytes and the NGRN is less
> > > 	than 8, the argument is copied to the least significant bits in
> > > 	x[NGRN]. The NGRN is incremented by one. The argument has now
> > > 	been allocated.
> >
> > So, in essence, if the value is in a 64bit register the calling
> > code is independent of the actual type of the formal parameter.
> > Clearly a value might need explicit widening.
> 
> No, this says that if you pass a 32-bit integer in a 64-bit register,
> then the top 32 bits of that register hold an undefined value.

That's sort of what I meant.
The 'normal' junk in the hight bits will there because the variable
in the calling code is wider.

> > I've found a copy of the 64 bit arm instruction set.
> > Unfortunately it is alpha sorted and repetitive so shows none
> > of the symmetry and makes things difficult to find.
> 
> All of this is ABI, not ISA.  Look at the AAPCS64 pointed to above.
> 
> > But, contrary to what someone suggested most register writes
> > (eg from arithmetic) seem to zero/extend the high bits.
> 
> Everything that writes a "w" does, yes.  But that has nothing to do with
> the parameter passing rules, that is ABI.  It just means that very often
> a 32-bit integer will be passed zero-extended in a 64-bit register, but
> that is just luck (or not, it makes finding bugs harder ;-) )

Working out why the code is wrong is more of an ISA issue than an ABI one.
It may be an ABI one, but the analysis is ISA.

I've written a lot of asm over the years - decoding compiler generated
asm isn't that hard.
At least ARM doesn't have annulled delay slots.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-24 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-25  4:51 let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well v4 Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 1/9] compat.h: fix a spelling error in <linux/compat.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 2/9] iov_iter: move rw_copy_check_uvector() into lib/iov_iter.c Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-21 16:13   ` Buggy commit tracked to: "Re: [PATCH 2/9] iov_iter: move rw_copy_check_uvector() into lib/iov_iter.c" Greg KH
2020-10-21 20:59     ` David Laight
2020-10-21 23:39     ` Al Viro
2020-10-22  8:26       ` Greg KH
2020-10-22  8:35         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-22  8:40           ` David Laight
2020-10-22  8:48             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-22  9:01               ` Greg KH
2020-10-22  9:06                 ` David Laight
2020-10-22  9:19                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-22  9:25                   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-22  9:32                     ` David Laight
2020-10-22  9:36                       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-22 10:48                         ` Greg KH
2020-10-22 12:18                           ` Greg KH
2020-10-22 12:42                             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-22 12:57                               ` Greg KH
2020-10-22 13:50                                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                   ` <CAK8P3a1B7OVdyzW0-97JwzZiwp0D0fnSfyete16QTvPp_1m07A@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-22 14:40                                     ` Greg KH
2020-10-22 16:15                                       ` David Laight
2020-10-23 12:46                                   ` David Laight
2020-10-23 13:09                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-23 14:33                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-23 14:39                                         ` David Laight
2020-10-23 14:47                                           ` 'Greg KH'
2020-10-23 16:33                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-02  9:06                                             ` David Laight
2020-11-02 13:52                                               ` 'Greg KH'
2020-11-02 18:23                                                 ` David Laight
2020-10-23 17:58                                       ` Al Viro
2020-10-23 18:27                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-10-23 21:28                                           ` David Laight
2020-10-24 17:29                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-10-24 21:12                                               ` David Laight [this message]
     [not found]                                     ` <CAK8P3a1n+b8hOMhNQSDzgic03dyXbmpccfTJ3C1bGKvzsgMXbg@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-23 13:28                                       ` David Laight
2020-10-22 13:23                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-22 16:35                           ` David Laight
2020-10-22 16:40                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-22 16:50                               ` David Laight
2020-10-22 17:00                               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-10-22 20:59                                 ` Eric Biggers
2020-10-22 21:28                                   ` Al Viro
2020-10-22 18:19                               ` Al Viro
2020-10-22 17:54                             ` Nick Desaulniers
     [not found]                               ` <CAK8P3a3LjG+ZvmQrkb9zpgov8xBkQQWrkHBPgjfYSqBKGrwT4w@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-22 19:04                                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-10-22 19:24                                   ` Al Viro
2020-10-22 19:27                                     ` Al Viro
2020-10-22 20:06                                     ` Al Viro
2020-10-22 20:09                                       ` Al Viro
2020-10-22 20:11                                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-10-22 22:07                                     ` David Laight
2020-10-23 13:12                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-22 22:04                                   ` David Laight
2020-10-22  9:28                   ` David Laight
2020-10-22  9:02               ` David Laight
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 3/9] iov_iter: refactor rw_copy_check_uvector and import_iovec Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 4/9] iov_iter: transparently handle compat iovecs in import_iovec Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 5/9] fs: remove various compat readv/writev helpers Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 6/9] fs: remove the compat readv/writev syscalls Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 7/9] fs: remove compat_sys_vmsplice Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: remove compat_process_vm_{readv,writev} Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25  4:51 ` [PATCH 9/9] security/keys: remove compat_keyctl_instantiate_key_iov Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-25 15:23 ` let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well v4 Al Viro

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