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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>, "Hao Xu" <haoxu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] refactor sqthread cpu binding logic
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 12:00:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <efd3c387-9c7c-c0d8-1306-f722da2a9ba1@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210902164808.GA10014@blackbody.suse.cz>

On 9/2/21 10:48 AM, Michal Koutný wrote:
> Hello Hao.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 08:43:20PM +0800, Hao Xu <haoxu@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>> This patchset is to enhance sqthread cpu binding logic, we didn't
>> consider cgroup setting before. In container environment, theoretically
>> sqthread is in its container's task group, it shouldn't occupy cpu out
>> of its container.
> 
> I see in the discussions that there's struggle to make
> set_cpus_allowed_ptr() do what's intended under the given constraints.
> 
> IIUC, set_cpus_allowed_ptr() is conventionally used for kernel threads
> [1]. But does the sqthread fall into this category? You want to have it
> _directly_ associated with a container and its cgroups. It looks to me
> more like a userspace thread (from this perspective, not literally). Or
> is there a different intention?

It's an io thread, which is kind of a hybrid - it's a kernel thread in
the sense that it never exits to userspace (ever), but it's a regular
thread in the sense that it's setup like one.

> It seems to me that reusing the sched_setaffinity() (with all its
> checks and race pains/solutions) would be a more universal approach.
> (I don't mean calling sched_setaffinity() directly, some parts would
> need to be factored separately to this end.) WDYT?

We already have this API to set the affinity based on when these were
regular kernel threads, so it needs to work with that too. As such they
are marked PF_NO_SETAFFINITY.

> [1] Not only spending their life in kernel but providing some
> delocalized kernel service.

That's what they do...

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-02 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-01 12:43 [PATCH v4 0/2] refactor sqthread cpu binding logic Hao Xu
2021-09-01 12:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] cpuset: add a helper to check if cpu in cpuset of current task Hao Xu
2021-09-01 12:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring: consider cgroup setting when binding sqpoll cpu Hao Xu
2021-09-01 16:41   ` Tejun Heo
2021-09-01 16:42     ` Tejun Heo
2021-09-03 15:04     ` Hao Xu
2021-09-07 16:54       ` Tejun Heo
2021-09-07 19:28         ` Hao Xu
2021-09-02 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] refactor sqthread cpu binding logic Michal Koutný
2021-09-02 18:00   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-09-09 12:34     ` Michal Koutný
2021-09-03 14:43   ` Hao Xu

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