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From: Jiufei Xue <jiufei.xue@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH liburing 1/2] io_uring_enter: add timeout support
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:16:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fccac1a9-17b6-28ac-728d-3c6975111671@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <253b4df7-a35b-4d49-8cdc-c6fa24446bf9@kernel.dk>

Hi Jens,

On 2020/7/31 上午11:57, Jens Axboe wrote:
> Then why not just make the sqe-less timeout path flush existing requests,
> if it needs to? Seems a lot simpler than adding odd x2 variants, which
> won't really be clear.
> 
Flushing the requests will access and modify the head of submit queue, that
may race with the submit thread. I think the reap thread should not touch
the submit queue when IORING_FEAT_GETEVENTS_TIMEOUT is supported.

> Chances are, if it's called with sq entries pending, the caller likely
> wants those submitted. Either the caller was aware and relying on that
> behavior, or the caller is simply buggy and has a case where it doesn't
> submit IO before waiting for completions.
>

That is not true when the SQ/CQ handling are split in two different threads.
The reaping thread is not aware of the submit queue. It should only wait for
completion of the requests, such as below:

submitting_thread:                   reaping_thread:

io_uring_get_sqe()
io_uring_prep_nop()     
                                 io_uring_wait_cqe_timeout2()
io_uring_submit()
                                 woken if requests are completed or timeout


And if the SQ/CQ handling are in the same thread, applications should use the
old API if they do not want to submit the request themselves.

io_uring_get_sqe
io_uring_prep_nop
io_uring_wait_cqe_timeout

> Hence I really don't think that's a big deal, and even arguably the right
> thing to do.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-03  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-29 10:10 [PATCH liburing 0/2] add two interfaces for new timeout feature Jiufei Xue
2020-07-29 10:10 ` [PATCH liburing 1/2] io_uring_enter: add timeout support Jiufei Xue
2020-07-29 17:51   ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30  2:32     ` Jiufei Xue
2020-07-30 15:28       ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-31  2:12         ` Jiufei Xue
2020-07-31  2:56           ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-31  3:16             ` Jiufei Xue
2020-07-31  3:57               ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-03  3:16                 ` Jiufei Xue [this message]
2020-08-03 16:41                   ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-03 19:16                     ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-08-04  1:29                     ` Jiufei Xue
2020-08-04  4:50                       ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-04  5:04                         ` Jiufei Xue
2020-08-04  5:19                           ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-29 10:10 ` [PATCH liburing 2/2] test/timeout: add testcase for new timeout interface Jiufei Xue

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