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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Elena Petrova <lenaptr@google.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@embeddedor.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] ubsan: Split out bounds checker
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 08:52:15 -0800
Message-ID: <201911220845.622FDC4@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+b3JZM=TSvUPZRMiJEPNH69otidRCqq9gmKX53UHxYqLg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:07:29AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 7:15 PM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > v2:
> >     - clarify Kconfig help text (aryabinin)
> >     - add reviewed-by
> >     - aim series at akpm, which seems to be where ubsan goes through?
> > v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20191120010636.27368-1-keescook@chromium.org
> >
> > This splits out the bounds checker so it can be individually used. This
> > is expected to be enabled in Android and hopefully for syzbot. Includes
> > LKDTM tests for behavioral corner-cases (beyond just the bounds checker).
> >
> > -Kees
> 
> +syzkaller mailing list
> 
> This is great!
> 
> I wanted to enable UBSAN on syzbot for a long time. And it's
> _probably_ not lots of work. But it was stuck on somebody actually
> dedicating some time specifically for it.
> Kees, or anybody else interested, could you provide relevant configs
> that (1) useful for kernel, (2) we want 100% cleanliness, (3) don't
> fire all the time even without fuzzing? Anything else required to
> enable UBSAN? I don't see anything. syzbot uses gcc 8.something, which
> I assume should be enough (but we can upgrade if necessary).

Nothing external should be needed; GCC and Clang support the ubsan
options. Once this series lands, it should be possible to just enable
this with:

CONFIG_UBSAN=y
CONFIG_UBSAN_BOUNDS=y
# CONFIG_UBSAN_MISC is not set

Based on initial testing, the bounds checker isn't very noisy, but I
haven't spun up a syzbot instance to really confirm this yet (that was
on the TODO list for today to let it run over the weekend).

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply index

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-21 18:15 Kees Cook
2019-11-21 18:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] ubsan: Add trap instrumentation option Kees Cook
2019-12-16 10:26   ` Will Deacon
2019-12-18  0:08     ` Kees Cook
2019-11-21 18:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ubsan: Split "bounds" checker from other options Kees Cook
2019-11-21 18:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] lkdtm/bugs: Add arithmetic overflow and array bounds checks Kees Cook
2019-11-22  9:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] ubsan: Split out bounds checker Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-22 16:52   ` Kees Cook [this message]
2019-11-27  5:42   ` Kees Cook
2019-11-27  6:54     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-27  9:34       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-27 17:59         ` Kees Cook
2019-11-28 10:38           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-28 16:14             ` Qian Cai
2019-11-28 13:10           ` Dmitry Vyukov

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