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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/6] Break heap spraying needed for exploiting use-after-free
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 01:44:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201006004414.GP20115@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez1tNU_7n8qtnxTYZ5qt-upJ81Fcb0P2rZe38ARK=iyBkA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 12:56:33AM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> It seems to me like, if you want to make UAF exploitation harder at
> the heap allocator layer, you could do somewhat more effective things
> with a probably much smaller performance budget. Things like
> preventing the reallocation of virtual kernel addresses with different
> types, such that an attacker can only replace a UAF object with
> another object of the same type. (That is not an idea I like very much
> either, but I would like it more than this proposal.) (E.g. some
> browsers implement things along those lines, I believe.)

The slab allocator already has that functionality.  We call it
TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, but if forcing that on by default would enhance security
by a measurable amount, it wouldn't be a terribly hard sell ...

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-06  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-29 18:35 [PATCH RFC v2 0/6] Break heap spraying needed for exploiting use-after-free Alexander Popov
2020-09-29 18:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/6] mm: Extract SLAB_QUARANTINE from KASAN Alexander Popov
2020-09-29 18:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/6] mm/slab: Perform init_on_free earlier Alexander Popov
2020-09-30 12:50   ` Alexander Potapenko
2020-10-01 19:48     ` Alexander Popov
2020-12-03 19:50     ` Alexander Popov
2020-12-03 20:49       ` Andrew Morton
2020-12-04 11:54         ` Alexander Popov
2020-09-29 18:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] mm: Integrate SLAB_QUARANTINE with init_on_free Alexander Popov
2020-09-29 18:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] mm: Implement slab quarantine randomization Alexander Popov
2020-09-29 18:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/6] lkdtm: Add heap quarantine tests Alexander Popov
2020-09-29 18:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] mm: Add heap quarantine verbose debugging (not for merge) Alexander Popov
2020-10-01 19:42 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/6] Break heap spraying needed for exploiting use-after-free Alexander Popov
2020-10-05 22:56   ` Jann Horn
2020-10-06  0:44     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-10-06  0:48       ` Jann Horn
2020-10-06  2:09       ` Kees Cook
2020-10-06  2:16         ` Jann Horn
2020-10-06  2:19         ` Daniel Micay
2020-10-06  8:35         ` Christopher Lameter
2020-10-06  8:32       ` Christopher Lameter
2020-10-06 17:56     ` Alexander Popov
2020-10-06 18:37       ` Jann Horn
2020-10-06 19:25         ` Alexander Popov

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