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From: hpa@zytor.com
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
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	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Dock, Deneen T" <deneen.t.dock@intel.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/17] x86/alternative: use temporary mm for text poking
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:31:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7E4A4400-0A2E-4393-B22C-DBD708610BB5@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B8C39C5A-A669-4F80-9BAE-7C11A4379ECF@gmail.com>

On January 17, 2019 1:43:54 PM PST, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
>wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 12:27 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
>wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 4:33 PM Rick Edgecombe
>>> <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
>>>> 
>>>> text_poke() can potentially compromise the security as it sets
>temporary
>>>> PTEs in the fixmap. These PTEs might be used to rewrite the kernel
>code
>>>> from other cores accidentally or maliciously, if an attacker gains
>the
>>>> ability to write onto kernel memory.
>>> 
>>> i think this may be sufficient, but barely.
>>> 
>>>> +       pte_clear(poking_mm, poking_addr, ptep);
>>>> +
>>>> +       /*
>>>> +        * __flush_tlb_one_user() performs a redundant TLB flush
>when PTI is on,
>>>> +        * as it also flushes the corresponding "user" address
>spaces, which
>>>> +        * does not exist.
>>>> +        *
>>>> +        * Poking, however, is already very inefficient since it
>does not try to
>>>> +        * batch updates, so we ignore this problem for the time
>being.
>>>> +        *
>>>> +        * Since the PTEs do not exist in other kernel
>address-spaces, we do
>>>> +        * not use __flush_tlb_one_kernel(), which when PTI is on
>would cause
>>>> +        * more unwarranted TLB flushes.
>>>> +        *
>>>> +        * There is a slight anomaly here: the PTE is a
>supervisor-only and
>>>> +        * (potentially) global and we use __flush_tlb_one_user()
>but this
>>>> +        * should be fine.
>>>> +        */
>>>> +       __flush_tlb_one_user(poking_addr);
>>>> +       if (cross_page_boundary) {
>>>> +               pte_clear(poking_mm, poking_addr + PAGE_SIZE, ptep
>+ 1);
>>>> +               __flush_tlb_one_user(poking_addr + PAGE_SIZE);
>>>> +       }
>>> 
>>> In principle, another CPU could still have the old translation. 
>Your
>>> mutex probably makes this impossible, but it makes me nervous.
>>> Ideally you'd use flush_tlb_mm_range(), but I guess you can't do
>that
>>> with IRQs off.  Hmm.  I think you should add an inc_mm_tlb_gen()
>here.
>>> Arguably, if you did that, you could omit the flushes, but maybe
>>> that's silly.
>>> 
>>> If we start getting new users of use_temporary_mm(), we should give
>>> some serious thought to the SMP semantics.
>>> 
>>> Also, you're using PAGE_KERNEL.  Please tell me that the global bit
>>> isn't set in there.
>> 
>> Much better solution: do unuse_temporary_mm() and *then*
>> flush_tlb_mm_range().  This is entirely non-sketchy and should be
>just
>> about optimal, too.
>
>This solution sounds nice and clean. The fact the global-bit was set
>didn’t
>matter before (since __flush_tlb_one_user would get rid of it no matter
>what), but would matter now, so I’ll change it too.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Nadav

You can just disable the global bit at the top level, obviously.

This approach also should make it far easier to do batching if desired.
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-17 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-17  0:32 [PATCH 00/17] Merge text_poke fixes and executable lockdowns Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 01/17] Fix "x86/alternatives: Lockdep-enforce text_mutex in text_poke*()" Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  6:47   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 21:15     ` hpa
2019-01-17 22:39       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:59         ` hpa
2019-01-17 23:14           ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-25  9:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-25 18:28     ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 02/17] x86/jump_label: Use text_poke_early() during early init Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 03/17] x86/mm: temporary mm struct Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 04/17] fork: provide a function for copying init_mm Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 05/17] x86/alternative: initializing temporary mm for patching Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 06/17] x86/alternative: use temporary mm for text poking Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17 20:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 20:47     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 21:43       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:29         ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:31         ` hpa [this message]
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 07/17] x86/kgdb: avoid redundant comparison of patched code Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 08/17] x86/ftrace: set trampoline pages as executable Rick Edgecombe
2019-02-06 16:22   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-06 17:33     ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-06 17:41       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 09/17] x86/kprobes: Instruction pages initialization enhancements Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  6:51   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 10/17] x86: avoid W^X being broken during modules loading Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 11/17] x86/jump-label: remove support for custom poker Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 12/17] x86/alternative: Remove the return value of text_poke_*() Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 13/17] Add set_alias_ function and x86 implementation Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 14/17] mm: Make hibernate handle unmapped pages Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  9:39   ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17 22:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17 23:41       ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17 23:48         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-18  8:16           ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 15/17] vmalloc: New flags for safe vfree on special perms Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 16/17] Plug in new special vfree flag Rick Edgecombe
2019-02-06 16:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-07 17:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-02-07 17:49       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-07 18:20         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 17/17] module: Prevent module removal racing with text_poke() Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  7:54   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 18:07     ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 23:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-01-18  8:23       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 23:58     ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-01-18  1:15       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-18 13:32         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 13:21 ` [PATCH 00/17] Merge text_poke fixes and executable lockdowns Peter Zijlstra

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