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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
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Subject: [kernel-hardening] RE: [PATCH v3 02/11] mm: Hardened usercopy
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 12:09:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mvl5jgl1.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D5F502102@AcuExch.aculab.com>

David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> writes:

> From: Josh Poimboeuf
>> Sent: 22 July 2016 18:46
>> >
>> > e.g. then if the pointer was in the thread_info, the second test would
>> > fail, triggering the protection.
>> 
>> FWIW, this won't work right on x86 after Andy's
>> CONFIG_THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK patches get merged.
>
> What ends up in the 'thread_info' area?

It depends on the arch.

> If it contains the fp save area then programs like gdb may end up requesting
> copy_in/out directly from that area.

On the arches I've seen thread_info doesn't usually contain register save areas,
but if it did then it would be up to the arch helper to allow that copy to go
through.

However given thread_info generally contains lots of low level flags that would
be a good target for an attacker, the best way to cope with ptrace wanting to
copy to/from it would be to use a temporary, and prohibit copying directly
to/from thread_info - IMHO.

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-26  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-15 21:44 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 00/11] mm: Hardened usercopy Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 01/11] mm: Implement stack frame object validation Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 02/11] mm: Hardened usercopy Kees Cook
2016-07-19  1:06   ` [kernel-hardening] " Laura Abbott
2016-07-19 18:48     ` Kees Cook
2016-07-19 22:00       ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH] mm: Add is_migrate_cma_page Laura Abbott
2016-07-19 22:40         ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-20 10:24       ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v3 02/11] mm: Hardened usercopy Balbir Singh
2016-07-20 15:36         ` Laura Abbott
2016-07-19  1:52   ` Laura Abbott
2016-07-19 19:12     ` Kees Cook
2016-07-19 22:55       ` Kees Cook
2016-07-19  9:21   ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-19 19:31     ` Kees Cook
2016-07-19 20:14       ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-19 20:34         ` Kees Cook
2016-07-19 20:44           ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-21  6:52   ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]   ` <5790711f.2350420a.b4287.2cc0SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2016-07-21 18:34     ` Kees Cook
2016-07-22 17:45       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-25  9:27         ` [kernel-hardening] " David Laight
2016-07-26  2:09           ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2016-07-26  2:03         ` [kernel-hardening] " Michael Ellerman
2016-07-26  4:46           ` Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 03/11] x86/uaccess: Enable hardened usercopy Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 04/11] ARM: uaccess: " Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 05/11] arm64/uaccess: " Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 06/11] ia64/uaccess: " Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 07/11] powerpc/uaccess: " Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 08/11] sparc/uaccess: " Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 09/11] s390/uaccess: " Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 10/11] mm: SLAB hardened usercopy support Kees Cook
2016-07-15 21:44 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 11/11] mm: SLUB " Kees Cook
2016-07-18  8:26 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v3 00/11] mm: Hardened usercopy Balbir Singh
2016-07-20  9:52 ` [kernel-hardening] " David Laight
2016-07-20 15:31   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-20 16:02     ` [kernel-hardening] " David Laight
2016-07-20 16:22       ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-07-20 17:44       ` Kees Cook

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