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R. Silva" , Ard Biesheuvel , kasan-dev , LKML , kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, syzkaller Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:59 PM Kees Cook wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:34:24AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 7:54 AM Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:42 AM Kees Cook wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:07:29AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 7:15 PM Kees Cook wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > v2: > > > > > > - clarify Kconfig help text (aryabinin) > > > > > > - add reviewed-by > > > > > > - aim series at akpm, which seems to be where ubsan goes through? > > > > > > v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20191120010636.27368-1-keescook@chromium.org > > > > > > > > > > > > This splits out the bounds checker so it can be individually used. This > > > > > > is expected to be enabled in Android and hopefully for syzbot. Includes > > > > > > LKDTM tests for behavioral corner-cases (beyond just the bounds checker). > > > > > > > > > > > > -Kees > > > > > > > > > > +syzkaller mailing list > > > > > > > > > > This is great! > > > > > > > > BTW, can I consider this your Acked-by for these patches? :) > > > > > > > > > I wanted to enable UBSAN on syzbot for a long time. And it's > > > > > _probably_ not lots of work. But it was stuck on somebody actually > > > > > dedicating some time specifically for it. > > > > > > > > Do you have a general mechanism to test that syzkaller will actually > > > > pick up the kernel log splat of a new check? > > > > > > Yes. That's one of the most important and critical parts of syzkaller :) > > > The tests for different types of bugs are here: > > > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/tree/master/pkg/report/testdata/linux/report > > > > > > But have 3 for UBSAN, but they may be old and it would be useful to > > > have 1 example crash per bug type: > > > > > > syzkaller$ grep UBSAN pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/* > > > pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/40:TITLE: UBSAN: Undefined behaviour > > > in drivers/usb/core/devio.c:LINE > > > pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/40:[ 4.556972] UBSAN: Undefined > > > behaviour in drivers/usb/core/devio.c:1517:25 > > > pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/41:TITLE: UBSAN: Undefined behaviour > > > in ./arch/x86/include/asm/atomic.h:LINE > > > pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/41:[ 3.805453] UBSAN: Undefined > > > behaviour in ./arch/x86/include/asm/atomic.h:156:2 > > > pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/42:TITLE: UBSAN: Undefined behaviour > > > in kernel/time/hrtimer.c:LINE > > > pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/42:[ 50.583499] UBSAN: Undefined > > > behaviour in kernel/time/hrtimer.c:310:16 > > > > > > One of them is incomplete and is parsed as "corrupted kernel output" > > > (won't be reported): > > > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/pkg/report/testdata/linux/report/42 > > > > > > Also I see that report parsing just takes the first line, which > > > includes file name, which is suboptimal (too long, can't report 2 bugs > > > in the same file). We seem to converge on "bug-type in function-name" > > > format. > > > The thing about bug titles is that it's harder to change them later. > > > If syzbot already reported 100 bugs and we change titles, it will > > > start re-reporting the old one after new names and the old ones will > > > look stale, yet they still relevant, just detected under different > > > name. > > > So we also need to get this part right before enabling. > > It Sounds like instead of "UBSAN: Undefined behaviour in $file", UBSAN > should report something like "UBSAN: $behavior in $file"? > > e.g. > 40: UBSAN: bad shift in drivers/usb/core/devio.c:1517:25" > 41: UBSAN: signed integer overflow in ./arch/x86/include/asm/atomic.h:156:2 > > I'll add one for the bounds checker. > > How are these reports used? (And is there a way to check a live kernel > crash? i.e. to tell syzkaller "echo ARRAY_BOUNDS >/.../lkdtm..." and > generate a report? I've collected the sample and added to syzkaller test base: https://github.com/google/syzkaller/commit/76357d6f894431c00cc09cfc9e7474701a4b822a I also filed https://github.com/google/syzkaller/issues/1523 for enabling UBSAN on syzbot, let's move syzbot-related discussion there.