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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] gcc-plugins: Introduce stackinit plugin
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:54:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5j+xz8_wkY2rVRML_iq1o7ZoF1jVp2mi73LjxaKuMNw1cw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874b8c23-068b-f8e7-2168-12947c06e145@linux.com>

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:12 PM Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com> wrote:
>
> On 23.01.2019 14:03, Kees Cook wrote:
> > This adds a new plugin "stackinit" that attempts to perform unconditional
> > initialization of all stack variables
>
> Hello Kees! Hello everyone!
>
> I was curious about the performance impact of the initialization of all stack
> variables. So I did a very brief test with this plugin on top of 4.20.5.
>
> hackbench on Intel Core i7-4770 showed ~0.7% slowdown.
> hackbench on Kirin 620 (ARM Cortex-A53 Octa-core 1.2GHz) showed ~1.3% slowdown.

Thanks for looking at this! I'll be including my hackbench
measurements for the v2 here in a moment.

> This test involves the kernel scheduler and allocator. I can't say whether they
> use stack aggressively. Maybe performance tests of other subsystems (e.g.
> network subsystem) can show different numbers. Did you try?

I haven't found a stable network test yet. If someone can find a
reasonable workload, I'd love to hear about it.

> I've heard a hypothesis that the initialization of all stack variables would
> pollute CPU caches, which is critical for some types of computations. Maybe some
> micro-benchmarks can disprove/confirm that?

I kind of think micro-benchmarks aren't so useful because they don't
represent a real-world workload. I've heard people talk about SAP-HANA
as a good test, but I can't get my hands on it. I wonder if anyone has
tried "mysqlslap"?

-- 
Kees Cook

      reply	other threads:[~2019-02-12 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-23 11:03 [PATCH 0/3] gcc-plugins: Introduce stackinit plugin Kees Cook
2019-01-23 11:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] treewide: Lift switch variables out of switches Kees Cook
2019-01-23 11:58   ` Greg KH
2019-01-23 12:09     ` Jann Horn
2019-01-23 12:12       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-23 13:21       ` William Kucharski
2019-01-23 14:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jani Nikula
2019-01-23 14:23       ` Jani Nikula
2019-01-23 14:47       ` Edwin Zimmerman
2019-01-23 15:46         ` Jani Nikula
2019-01-23 18:55           ` Kees Cook
2019-01-24  8:10             ` Greg KH
2019-01-23 19:18       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-23 20:36         ` Kees Cook
2019-01-23 16:51   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jeff Kirsher
2019-01-24 12:58   ` Edwin Zimmerman
2019-01-23 11:03 ` [PATCH 2/3] gcc-plugins: Introduce stackinit plugin Kees Cook
2019-01-23 11:03 ` [PATCH 3/3] lib: Introduce test_stackinit module Kees Cook
2019-01-29  0:12 ` [PATCH 0/3] gcc-plugins: Introduce stackinit plugin Alexander Popov
2019-02-12 17:54   ` Kees Cook [this message]

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