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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:59:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jKSk9910EiyR1q+UzPst_XeP5_Uyx7Wu3j4+Tnsha70qg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACXcFmnu5M_pQw5oTU+P6j7udj2vJSjctHDT0NY5Xc3uuf-Ovg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
>
>> Modern systems that receive a seed from the bootloader via the
>> random-seed property (typically from the hw-rng) can mix both sources
>> for increased resilience.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with the internals of x86
>> bootstrapping.  Could GRUB be scripted to do a similar task?  How would
>> the address and size of the seed be passed to the kernel?  command line?
>
> One suggestion is at:
> http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/secure-random.htm#sec-boot-image

Interesting! This might pose a problem for signed images, though.
(Actually, for signed arm kernels is the DT signed too? If so, it
would be a similar problem.)

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-23 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-22  0:46 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:46 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 1/9] x86/mm: Refactor KASLR entropy functions Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:46 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 2/9] x86/mm: Update physical mapping variable names (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 3/9] x86/mm: PUD VA support for physical mapping (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 4/9] x86/mm: Separate variable for trampoline PGD (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 5/9] x86/mm: Implement ASLR for kernel memory regions (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 6/9] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for physical mapping memory region (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 7/9] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for vmalloc " Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 8/9] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for vmemmap " Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 9/9] x86/mm: Memory hotplug support for KASLR memory randomization (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22 12:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR Jason Cooper
2016-06-22 15:59   ` Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22 17:05     ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 19:33       ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-23 19:45         ` Sandy Harris
2016-06-23 19:59           ` Kees Cook [this message]
2016-06-23 20:19             ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-23 20:16           ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-23 19:58         ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 20:05           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-06-24  1:11             ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-24 10:54               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-06-24 16:02                 ` [kernel-hardening] devicetree random-seed properties, was: "Re: [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR" Jason Cooper
2016-06-24 19:04                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-06-24 20:40                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-30 21:48                       ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-30 21:56                         ` Thomas Garnier
2016-06-30 21:48                     ` Jason Cooper
2016-07-07 22:24 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR Kees Cook

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