KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Guillaume Tucker]

Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
While other things are arguably even more important, such as
testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
while.

There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have.  As
such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
this gap.

The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
governing board.

In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
still need formal confirmation.


Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:

  https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4

I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:

  https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones


This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
this effort in any other way.

Best wishes,
Guillaume

[1] https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 04:54:46PM +0100, Guillaume Tucker wrote:
> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
> while.
> 
> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have.  As
> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
> this gap.
> 
> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
> governing board.
> 
> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
> still need formal confirmation.
> 
> 
> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
> 
>   https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
> 
> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
> 
>   https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
> 
> 
> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
> this effort in any other way.

How do we "join" the working group?  I'm willing to help out from the
"user who will use this a lot and complain about things that do not
work well" point of view :)

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Gustavo Padovan]

Hello everyone,

**

*From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in the 
the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories document[3].*

*

In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and start 
discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots are for next 
week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:

https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d

Best regards,

Gustavo

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# 
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#>

[2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
<https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>

{3} 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit 
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>*

Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
> while.
>
> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have.  As
> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
> this gap.
>
> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
> governing board.
>
> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
> still need formal confirmation.
>
>
> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>
>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>
> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>
>    https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>
>
> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
> this effort in any other way.
>
> Best wishes,
> Guillaume
>
> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Gustavo Padovan]

Hello,

Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. Invite 
was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the instructions to 
join as well:

This event has a video call.
Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
(US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
View more phone numbers: 
https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7

Regards,

Gustavo

Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> **
>
> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in the 
> the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories document[3].*
>
> *
>
> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and 
> start discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots are 
> for next week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>
> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gustavo
>
> [1] 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# 
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#>
>
> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>
> {3} 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit 
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>* 
>
> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>> while.
>>
>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have.  As
>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>> this gap.
>>
>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>> governing board.
>>
>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>> still need formal confirmation.
>>
>>
>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>
>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>
>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>
>>    https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>
>>
>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>> this effort in any other way.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Guillaume
>>
>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Gustavo Padovan]

Hi everyone,

In our last Web Dashboard meeting[1] where we reviewed the User Stories 
document[2]. Then, after that we worked offline to incorporate the 
feedback on doc, so it is time for our next meeting to further discuss. 
Please answer the poll with your time availability on the link below. I 
added dates from 21th to 28th of July.

https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eX6vyY5b

Thank you,

Gus
—
[1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#bookmark=id.6ok0ufne9shj
[2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit#heading=h.wjoxi4s5pxzl 


On 6/7/22 10:46, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. 
> Invite was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the 
> instructions to join as well:
>
> This event has a video call.
> Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
> (US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
> View more phone numbers: 
> https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7
>
> Regards,
>
> Gustavo
>
> Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> **
>>
>> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
>> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in the 
>> the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories document[3].*
>>
>> *
>>
>> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and 
>> start discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots are 
>> for next week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>>
>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Gustavo
>>
>> [1] 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# 
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#>
>>
>> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
>> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>>
>> {3} 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit 
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>* 
>>
>> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>> while.
>>>
>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have.  As
>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>> this gap.
>>>
>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>> governing board.
>>>
>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>
>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>
>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>
>>>    https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>
>>>
>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>> this effort in any other way.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Guillaume
>>>
>>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 

-- 
Gustavo Padovan
Kernel team Lead

Collabora Ltd.
Platinum Building, St John's Innovation Park
Cambridge CB4 0DS, UK
Registered in England & Wales, no. 5513718

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Gustavo Padovan]

Hello,

The previous tentative below didn't work due to vacation season. Here's 
a new pool with dates from 1st to 8th of September. Please answer it 
until this Wednesday August 31th.

https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dG5v423a

See the email below for meetings notes and current User Stories document.

Regards,

Gustavo

On 7/18/22 10:17, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> In our last Web Dashboard meeting[1] where we reviewed the User 
> Stories document[2]. Then, after that we worked offline to incorporate 
> the feedback on doc, so it is time for our next meeting to further 
> discuss. Please answer the poll with your time availability on the 
> link below. I added dates from 21th to 28th of July.
>
> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eX6vyY5b
>
> Thank you,
>
> Gus
> —
> [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#bookmark=id.6ok0ufne9shj 
>
> [2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit#heading=h.wjoxi4s5pxzl 
>
>
> On 6/7/22 10:46, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. 
>> Invite was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the 
>> instructions to join as well:
>>
>> This event has a video call.
>> Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
>> (US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
>> View more phone numbers: 
>> https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gustavo
>>
>> Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
>>> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in 
>>> the the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories 
>>> document[3].*
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and 
>>> start discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots are 
>>> for next week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>>>
>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Gustavo
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#> 
>>>
>>>
>>> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
>>> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>>>
>>> {3} 
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>* 
>>>
>>> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>>> while.
>>>>
>>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have. As
>>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>>> this gap.
>>>>
>>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>>> governing board.
>>>>
>>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>>
>>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>>
>>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>>
>>>>    https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>>> this effort in any other way.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Guillaume
>>>>
>>>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

-- 
Gustavo Padovan

Collabora Ltd.
Platinum Building, St John's Innovation Park
Cambridge CB4 0DS, UK
Registered in England & Wales, no. 5513718

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Gustavo Padovan]

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Hello,

The next meeting is next Monday September 5th at 12:00pm EDT. Invite 
sent to those who answered the poll and the the members and tsc mailing 
list. In any invite ics is attached.

Best regards,

Gustavo

Le 29/08/2022 à 11:04, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> The previous tentative below didn't work due to vacation season. 
> Here's a new pool with dates from 1st to 8th of September. Please 
> answer it until this Wednesday August 31th.
>
> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dG5v423a
>
> See the email below for meetings notes and current User Stories document.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gustavo
>
> On 7/18/22 10:17, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In our last Web Dashboard meeting[1] where we reviewed the User 
>> Stories document[2]. Then, after that we worked offline to 
>> incorporate the feedback on doc, so it is time for our next meeting 
>> to further discuss. Please answer the poll with your time 
>> availability on the link below. I added dates from 21th to 28th of July.
>>
>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eX6vyY5b
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Gus
>> —
>> [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#bookmark=id.6ok0ufne9shj 
>>
>> [2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit#heading=h.wjoxi4s5pxzl 
>>
>>
>> On 6/7/22 10:46, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. 
>>> Invite was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the 
>>> instructions to join as well:
>>>
>>> This event has a video call.
>>> Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
>>> (US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
>>> View more phone numbers: 
>>> https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gustavo
>>>
>>> Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
>>>> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in 
>>>> the the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories 
>>>> document[3].*
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and 
>>>> start discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots 
>>>> are for next week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>>>>
>>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Gustavo
>>>>
>>>> [1] 
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# 
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
>>>> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>>>>
>>>> {3} 
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit 
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>* 
>>>>
>>>> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>>>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>>>> while.
>>>>>
>>>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have. As
>>>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>>>> this gap.
>>>>>
>>>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>>>> governing board.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>>>
>>>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>>>
>>>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>>>
>>>>>    https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>>>> this effort in any other way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> Guillaume
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Gustavo Padovan]

Hello,

I have learned that Today is holiday in the US and Canada. So I am 
moving this invite to the same time next week. If it doesn't work for 
people, we can start a new pool. Please let me know.

Regards,

Gustavo

Le 01/09/2022 à 15:32, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> The next meeting is next Monday September 5th at 12:00pm EDT. Invite 
> sent to those who answered the poll and the the members and tsc 
> mailing list. In any invite ics is attached.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gustavo
>
> Le 29/08/2022 à 11:04, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> The previous tentative below didn't work due to vacation season. 
>> Here's a new pool with dates from 1st to 8th of September. Please 
>> answer it until this Wednesday August 31th.
>>
>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dG5v423a
>>
>> See the email below for meetings notes and current User Stories 
>> document.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gustavo
>>
>> On 7/18/22 10:17, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> In our last Web Dashboard meeting[1] where we reviewed the User 
>>> Stories document[2]. Then, after that we worked offline to 
>>> incorporate the feedback on doc, so it is time for our next meeting 
>>> to further discuss. Please answer the poll with your time 
>>> availability on the link below. I added dates from 21th to 28th of 
>>> July.
>>>
>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eX6vyY5b
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Gus
>>> —
>>> [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#bookmark=id.6ok0ufne9shj 
>>>
>>> [2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit#heading=h.wjoxi4s5pxzl 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/7/22 10:46, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. 
>>>> Invite was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the 
>>>> instructions to join as well:
>>>>
>>>> This event has a video call.
>>>> Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
>>>> (US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
>>>> View more phone numbers: 
>>>> https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Gustavo
>>>>
>>>> Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
>>>>> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in 
>>>>> the the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories 
>>>>> document[3].*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and 
>>>>> start discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots 
>>>>> are for next week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] 
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# 
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
>>>>> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>>>>>
>>>>> {3} 
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit 
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>* 
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>>>>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>>>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>>>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>>>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>>>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>>>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>>>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>>>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>>>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>>>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>>>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>>>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>>>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>>>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have. As
>>>>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>>>>> this gap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>>>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>>>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>>>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>>>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>>>>> governing board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>>>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>>>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>>>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>>>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>>>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>>>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>>>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>>>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>>>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>>>>> this effort in any other way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Guillaume
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Nikolai Kondrashov]

Hello Gustavo,

It probably won't work next week, as much of KernelCI (at least) will be at 
the Linux Plumbers conference.

Nick

On 9/5/22 14:04, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have learned that Today is holiday in the US and Canada. So I am moving this 
> invite to the same time next week. If it doesn't work for people, we can start 
> a new pool. Please let me know.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gustavo
> 
> Le 01/09/2022 à 15:32, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> The next meeting is next Monday September 5th at 12:00pm EDT. Invite sent to 
>> those who answered the poll and the the members and tsc mailing list. In any 
>> invite ics is attached.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Gustavo
>>
>> Le 29/08/2022 à 11:04, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The previous tentative below didn't work due to vacation season. Here's a 
>>> new pool with dates from 1st to 8th of September. Please answer it until 
>>> this Wednesday August 31th.
>>>
>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dG5v423a
>>>
>>> See the email below for meetings notes and current User Stories document.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gustavo
>>>
>>> On 7/18/22 10:17, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> In our last Web Dashboard meeting[1] where we reviewed the User Stories 
>>>> document[2]. Then, after that we worked offline to incorporate the 
>>>> feedback on doc, so it is time for our next meeting to further discuss. 
>>>> Please answer the poll with your time availability on the link below. I 
>>>> added dates from 21th to 28th of July.
>>>>
>>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eX6vyY5b
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Gus
>>>> —
>>>> [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#bookmark=id.6ok0ufne9shj
>>>> [2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit#heading=h.wjoxi4s5pxzl
>>>>
>>>> On 6/7/22 10:46, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. Invite 
>>>>> was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the instructions to 
>>>>> join as well:
>>>>>
>>>>> This event has a video call.
>>>>> Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
>>>>> (US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
>>>>> View more phone numbers: 
>>>>> https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
>>>>>> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in the 
>>>>>> the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories document[3].*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and start 
>>>>>> discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots are for next 
>>>>>> week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {3} 
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit*
>>>>>> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>>>>>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>>>>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>>>>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>>>>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>>>>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>>>>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>>>>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>>>>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>>>>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>>>>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>>>>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>>>>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>>>>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>>>>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have. As
>>>>>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>>>>>> this gap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>>>>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>>>>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>>>>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>>>>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>>>>>> governing board.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>>>>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>>>>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>>>>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>>>>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>>>>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>>>>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>>>>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>>>>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>>>>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>>>>>> this effort in any other way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> Guillaume
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

[Gustavo Padovan]

On 7/27/21 13:34, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 12:58 -03, "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 04:54:46PM +0100, Guillaume Tucker wrote:
>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>> while.
>>>
>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have.  As
>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>> this gap.
>>>
>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>> governing board.
>>>
>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>
>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>
>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>
>>>    https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>
>>>
>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>> this effort in any other way.
>> How do we "join" the working group?  I'm willing to help out from the
>> "user who will use this a lot and complain about things that do not
>> work well" point of view :)
> Congratulations! You are now part of the working group. :) For now, anyone that is interested can step up, and maybe in a few weeks we can formalize with those who wants to take on the journey together with us in this working group.
>
> Based on the replies to this thread I can put together an initial agenda and follow up with the potential times for a kick-off meeting.

Here's a poll with some proposed times for us to schedule the first 
meeting next week: https://doodle.com/poll/pbhpeu5cbxp49ghz

Please reply to it ASAP.

Regards,

Gustavo