* Simple system stats. @ 2019-11-02 11:51 Andre Schmidt 2019-11-02 12:07 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Andre Schmidt @ 2019-11-02 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies Hello kernel space, user space webmonkey here, tinkering on my home desktop setup and spelunking way too many rabbit holes... damn you source code! ;P The other day i got frustrated with re-implementing parsing and calculation of /proc/stat and /proc/meminfo for my visual user interface experiments (in various languages), so i "created"* a kernel module that helps me with that (https://github.com/oskude/proc_topstat). But i could not get swap info in the kernel module, cause - i guess - it's not exported? So i wonder, would/could upstream EXPORT_SYMBOL(si_swapinfo)? If yes/maybe, where/how should i propose such change? Cheers Andre Schmidt * "created" as in i copy and pasted from upstream code... _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Simple system stats. 2019-11-02 11:51 Simple system stats Andre Schmidt @ 2019-11-02 12:07 ` Greg KH 2019-11-02 13:05 ` Andre Schmidt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2019-11-02 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andre Schmidt; +Cc: kernelnewbies On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 12:51:05PM +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote: > Hello kernel space, > > user space webmonkey here, tinkering on my home desktop setup and spelunking way too many rabbit holes... damn you source code! ;P > > The other day i got frustrated with re-implementing parsing and calculation of /proc/stat and /proc/meminfo for my visual user interface experiments (in various languages), so i "created"* a kernel module that helps me with that (https://github.com/oskude/proc_topstat). > > But i could not get swap info in the kernel module, cause - i guess - it's not exported? > So i wonder, would/could upstream EXPORT_SYMBOL(si_swapinfo)? > If yes/maybe, where/how should i propose such change? Symbols and functions are only exported if an in-kernel-tree module needs it. Sorry. What's wrong with parsing the existing exports of this value as-is? thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Simple system stats. 2019-11-02 12:07 ` Greg KH @ 2019-11-02 13:05 ` Andre Schmidt 2019-11-02 13:13 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Andre Schmidt @ 2019-11-02 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Greg KH; +Cc: kernelnewbies On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:07:00 +0100 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 12:51:05PM +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote: > > Hello kernel space, > > > > user space webmonkey here, tinkering on my home desktop setup and spelunking way too many rabbit holes... damn you source code! ;P > > > > The other day i got frustrated with re-implementing parsing and calculation of /proc/stat and /proc/meminfo for my visual user interface experiments (in various languages), so i "created"* a kernel module that helps me with that (https://github.com/oskude/proc_topstat). > > > > But i could not get swap info in the kernel module, cause - i guess - it's not exported? > > So i wonder, would/could upstream EXPORT_SYMBOL(si_swapinfo)? > > If yes/maybe, where/how should i propose such change? > > Symbols and functions are only exported if an in-kernel-tree module > needs it. Sorry. > > What's wrong with parsing the existing exports of this value as-is? do you mean i can get swap usage info in a kernel module without si_swapinfo? (as seen here https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/fs/proc/meminfo.c#n44) or do you mean what is wrong with /proc/meminfo? Cheers Andre Schmidt _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Simple system stats. 2019-11-02 13:05 ` Andre Schmidt @ 2019-11-02 13:13 ` Greg KH 2019-11-02 13:56 ` Andre Schmidt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2019-11-02 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andre Schmidt; +Cc: kernelnewbies On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 02:05:19PM +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote: > On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:07:00 +0100 > Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 12:51:05PM +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote: > > > Hello kernel space, > > > > > > user space webmonkey here, tinkering on my home desktop setup and spelunking way too many rabbit holes... damn you source code! ;P > > > > > > The other day i got frustrated with re-implementing parsing and calculation of /proc/stat and /proc/meminfo for my visual user interface experiments (in various languages), so i "created"* a kernel module that helps me with that (https://github.com/oskude/proc_topstat). > > > > > > But i could not get swap info in the kernel module, cause - i guess - it's not exported? > > > So i wonder, would/could upstream EXPORT_SYMBOL(si_swapinfo)? > > > If yes/maybe, where/how should i propose such change? > > > > Symbols and functions are only exported if an in-kernel-tree module > > needs it. Sorry. > > > > What's wrong with parsing the existing exports of this value as-is? > > do you mean i can get swap usage info in a kernel module without si_swapinfo? Not that I know of, no. > (as seen here https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/fs/proc/meminfo.c#n44) > > or do you mean what is wrong with /proc/meminfo? Yes, what is wrong with that? thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Simple system stats. 2019-11-02 13:13 ` Greg KH @ 2019-11-02 13:56 ` Andre Schmidt 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Andre Schmidt @ 2019-11-02 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Greg KH; +Cc: kernelnewbies On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 14:13:08 +0100 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 02:05:19PM +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:07:00 +0100 > > Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 12:51:05PM +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote: > > > > Hello kernel space, > > > > > > > > user space webmonkey here, tinkering on my home desktop setup and spelunking way too many rabbit holes... damn you source code! ;P > > > > > > > > The other day i got frustrated with re-implementing parsing and calculation of /proc/stat and /proc/meminfo for my visual user interface experiments (in various languages), so i "created"* a kernel module that helps me with that (https://github.com/oskude/proc_topstat). > > > > > > > > But i could not get swap info in the kernel module, cause - i guess - it's not exported? > > > > So i wonder, would/could upstream EXPORT_SYMBOL(si_swapinfo)? > > > > If yes/maybe, where/how should i propose such change? > > > > > > Symbols and functions are only exported if an in-kernel-tree module > > > needs it. Sorry. > > > > > > What's wrong with parsing the existing exports of this value as-is? > > > > do you mean i can get swap usage info in a kernel module without si_swapinfo? > > Not that I know of, no. > > > (as seen here https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/fs/proc/meminfo.c#n44) > > > > or do you mean what is wrong with /proc/meminfo? > > Yes, what is wrong with that? I guess there's nothing "wrong" with /proc/meminfo (or /proc/stat), i just want to display their - for me/user relevant - data every 250ms and parsing them felt so sub-optimal... So i just removed what i didn't need and pre-calculated what i could, in the kernel module. So i would not need to worry about it again (except, yeah, when upstream changes). Also, as i dabble in various programming languages (in userspace), i would need to re-implement the parsing and calculation (that matters to me/user) of /proc/stat and /proc/meminfo every time... (but i guess that is userspace work? translate kernelspace data to userspace data? does "user" even mean "human"?;P) But whatever, i now like this more: $> cat /proc/topstat cpu 2085949 109734 cpu 2086513 108671 cpu 2086203 110817 cpu 2086167 127600 mem 8026148 2993832 1033648 cpu <total> <used> - line number implies cpu number. - <total> jiffies elapsed. - <used> amount of <total> in use by programs, that cannot be used by other programs. mem <total> <used> <cached> - <total> kilobytes of memory. - <used> amount of <total> in use by programs, that can not be used by other programs. - <cached> amount of <used> in use for caches, that can be freed by user. For now, i can live without swap ui, i avoid swap anyway :D Cheers Andre Schmidt _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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