From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67AEC4338F for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 11:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shelob.surriel.com (shelob.surriel.com [96.67.55.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B3E960E75 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 11:24:03 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.kernel.org 7B3E960E75 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kernelnewbies.org Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=shelob.surriel.com) by shelob.surriel.com with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1m6tHG-0002is-J3; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 07:23:38 -0400 Received: from mail-il1-x12e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::12e]) by shelob.surriel.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1m6tHE-0002il-NI for kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 07:23:36 -0400 Received: by mail-il1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id y4so1274180ilp.0 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=IzMoOfRiWI3GWOz/lnjqgW5KfiDMVYbZbchDGfd7Qdc=; b=IvUhkbQ5ncB/a5QU7ENnqPKbT45Pd3IqNZe9iJCuivZCcBygDiMVQIHmurtmTlZpw3 li82lTKgHORMUMvHf3wuqmKASqQJi2tblaBc6N4W3YX4bsWZM7oY9fC5oi/4RFIdL/8c K25OiINzescnBJEoDd8HNIzT73G4XGc2ZM6nfRo164sOptgQiP6xRTQaW2svjit+THks IHEdQW1L2W4hAeqLhAXe6vea/c3T/m3Sr71VDf/IaBrsPoHA81BgoTaBWQx1tPCjMlre xnfT39p0rAFVH9H7vCKVuWmw0thJLIVnJsrx3t2FE802YNMSyfogvHRa3AceKSwAdULT zsmg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IzMoOfRiWI3GWOz/lnjqgW5KfiDMVYbZbchDGfd7Qdc=; b=qMFsXS7F3+aOSRYxnWulPEbknQgSjOTGg0lppAx3JYYF7Hl+DsyLiVRbbd6lgQq9Ie ba9kAe5GZiikoxehPPNTYLjn8LCbup6Lf+U7/ITWIb3VbmM2NM2SqtSSOvZruZlK3dCr kkKTYSBdlpvofwp+5+smCaWozwVToQtVE1JBCZVgNBnBSxsGZqYlCWGcHbqCCj6cHbql 4FMChj8RWd641zaCFBLv9CAYZ1JLos7xkCvPmelaAIVwR1sPHpPykn+cjnYM8S1dIsuS KY4Sg/6RToyu5aiSP+If0E8Ils063jobLGb+9vvJ1vMXhMbXg2Tg+VUiEEL2EHxmAW0N FPSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530B/g1AagE0lBdTIPu41R7cmmJk1Q9DUv5m+3AGrnvSbZDkbcU6 geecV3J//Tz68/x9V/bVqe3bSa2y1NphRz7WoPo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxDzwTISsPLna1jtZRg8LjXgKE+3nNTV1PWm9NrU9C0k+GpzspzOv5NIc3JbM66ubBdy0Bd2JReGOFULUPzgUc= X-Received: by 2002:a92:dc4a:: with SMTP id x10mr3164236ilq.166.1627039415417; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 04:23:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210721140154.GA6892@odroid> <20a6414c-edc8-4843-efd0-16ae7f313383@crashcourse.ca> In-Reply-To: From: Amit Kumar Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 16:53:23 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: My effort to learn Linux kernel development To: "Robert P. J. Day" Cc: Jules Irenge , Kernel Newbies X-BeenThere: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Learn about the Linux kernel List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: kernelnewbies-bounces@kernelnewbies.org On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:12 PM Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2021, Amit Kumar wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 8:26 PM Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021, Jules Irenge wrote: > > > > > > > I normally learn the kernel on weekends. Reading R. Love and > > > > practicing by coding what you learn is the best way. Also, trying to > > > > submit simple patches on some free time is a good way , meeting Greg > > > > Kroah and Shuan, they are fantastic people to learn from. > > Is there any online method to interact with Mr. Greg Kroah Hartman? > > > > > > as the tech editor of the r. love kernel book, i can safely say that > > > there are no really current kernel books out there anymore -- the best > > > docs are the in-kernel ones. > > I started reading documents from the Documentation folder. > > > > > > also, if you want to get started mucking with the kernel and > > > submitting patches, consider improving the documentation -- there is a > > > lot of documentation that is at least a little out of date and could > > > use all the help it can get, and that's an easy and safe way to get > > > started getting your name into the kernel git log. > > > > > I know well that there is not any book that provides current knowledge > > about the Linux kernel. > > So, I have decided to make my blog (https://freeark1blog.blogspot.com) > > a gateway to the Linux kernel development. > > > > Why were the last kernel book by Mr. Greg Kroah Hartman and et. al. canceled? > > there's not much financial incentive to write kernel books anymore; > the code base changes so relentlessly that any book is pretty much out > of date by the time it hits the shelves, and few authors want to > invest months of their life for that. and what's the point of having a > small number of authors working on a book, when the entire linux > community is co-operating to improve the inline docs, anyway? > > rday > > p.s. it also occurs that the kernel is so vast that there's no way > you could do justice to it in a single book. there might (i emphasize > *might*) be some value in writing a comprehensive book on some single > kernel subsystem, but even that would be obviated by decent inline > docs. OK. Time will tell how much I remain successful in helping out developers to learn kernel development. I highly respect your feeling about this situation. Regards, Amit Kumar _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies