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[75.142.250.213]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l3sm2779806qth.13.2020.11.22.08.10.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:10:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [RFC] MAINTAINERS tag for cleanup robot To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: joe@perches.com, clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, tboot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, devel@acpica.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, MPT-FusionLinux.pdl@broadcom.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, patches@opensource.cirrus.com References: <20201121165058.1644182-1-trix@redhat.com> <20201122032304.GE4327@casper.infradead.org> <20201122145635.GG4327@casper.infradead.org> From: Tom Rix Message-ID: <0819ce06-c462-d4df-d3d9-14931dc5aefc@redhat.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:10:53 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201122145635.GG4327@casper.infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: keyrings@vger.kernel.org On 11/22/20 6:56 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 06:46:46AM -0800, Tom Rix wrote: >> On 11/21/20 7:23 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 08:50:58AM -0800, trix@redhat.com wrote: >>>> The fixer review is >>>> https://reviews.llvm.org/D91789 >>>> >>>> A run over allyesconfig for x86_64 finds 62 issues, 5 are false positives. >>>> The false positives are caused by macros passed to other macros and by >>>> some macro expansions that did not have an extra semicolon. >>>> >>>> This cleans up about 1,000 of the current 10,000 -Wextra-semi-stmt >>>> warnings in linux-next. >>> Are any of them not false-positives? It's all very well to enable >>> stricter warnings, but if they don't fix any bugs, they're just churn. >>> >> While enabling additional warnings may be a side effect of this effort >> >> the primary goal is to set up a cleaning robot. After that a refactoring robot. > Why do we need such a thing? Again, it sounds like more churn. > It's really annoying when I'm working on something important that gets > derailed by pointless churn. Churn also makes it harder to backport > patches to earlier kernels. > A refactoring example on moving to treewide, consistent use of a new api may help. Consider 2efc459d06f1630001e3984854848a5647086232 sysfs: Add sysfs_emit and sysfs_emit_at to format sysfs output A new api for printing in the sysfs.  How do we use it treewide ? Done manually, it would be a heroic effort requiring high level maintainers pushing and likely only get partially done. If a refactoring programatic fixit is done and validated on a one subsystem, it can run on all the subsystems. The effort is a couple of weeks to write and validate the fixer, hours to run over the tree. It won't be perfect but will be better than doing it manually. Tom