From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84BFC433E0 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECC8261992 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:41 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org ECC8261992 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=leemhuis.info Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E671402EC; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h7R3oEm-9Ap4; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [140.211.9.56]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD0D402E0; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674CEC000A; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF859C0001 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8A0403F3 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aEDZ6O_iXUwf for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42:1000:50ed:8234::]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2A04403F0 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip4d142c50.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.20.44.80] helo=[192.168.66.200]); authenticated by wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1lOPi6-0003ws-TQ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:55:31 +0100 To: Eric Wong , James Bottomley References: <613fe50d-fc9c-6282-f1f3-34653acb2ee9@leemhuis.info> <20210322171636.fkep2lby6gnve4su@chatter.i7.local> <20210322183427.GA1195@dcvr> From: Thorsten Leemhuis Message-ID: <09a6256e-0015-d360-9347-f025a7d5adfd@leemhuis.info> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:55:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210322183427.GA1195@dcvr> Content-Language: en-BW X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;linux@leemhuis.info;1616439336;1a56d2ee; X-HE-SMSGID: 1lOPi6-0003ws-TQ Cc: Greg KH , workflows@vger.kernel.org, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Konstantin Ryabitsev , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] RFC: create mailing list "linux-issues" focussed on issues/bugs and regressions X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" On 22.03.21 19:34, Eric Wong wrote: > James Bottomley wrote: >> On Mon, 2021-03-22 at 13:16 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 04:18:14PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>> Note, there is a second reason why ksummit-discuss is CCed: another >>>> reason why I want to create this new list is making it easier to >>>> find and track regressions reported to our various mailing lists >>>> (often without LKML in CC, as for some subsystems it's seems to be >>>> custom to not CC it). >>> >>> FYI, there will soon be a unified "search all of lore.kernel.org >>> regardless of the list/feed source" capability Ahh, nice, thx to everyone working on that! > [...] >>> Once we have this ability, we should be able to plug in multiple >>> sources beyond just mailing lists, including a feed of all >>> bugzilla.kernel.org changes. Out of curiosity: will that work for other bug trackers as well? Like the gitlab instance used by the drm developers? It's not really important and I guess the answer will be "no", but the question came up while at it... >>> This should allow someone an easy way to >>> query specific bugs and may not require the creation of a separate >>> list. >>> >>> I'm not opposed to the creation of a new list, of course -- just want >>> to make sure it's aligned with the improvements we are working to >>> make available. >> >> I suspect the problem is that there's no known useful search string to >> find a bug report even given a searchable set of lists, Exactly. Due to my work on reporting-issues.rst I try to look at it from the users point of view. And they currently have no easy way to search for existing reports without getting lots of other stuff mixed into the results they are not interested in. That makes it hard. :-/ >> so the main >> purpose of this list would be "if it's on here, it's a bug report" and >> the triage team If one exists ;-) >> can cc additional lists as appropriate. Then we simply >> tell everyone to send kernel bugs to this list and ask maintainers to >> cc it if a bug report shows up on their list? > > It seems having "bug" or "regression" in the subject could be sufficient? > > "s:Regression" or "s:Bug" can be used to query messages reasonably > quickly: Could, but I fear it might fail, as modifying the subject is a little unusual to the normal working style; but "adding people and appropriate mailing lists to the CC" OTOH is something that people do every day. And that's why I still think having a separate list is the best idea. But using tags is totally fine for me, if that the general consensus. Ciao, Thorsten _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss