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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	 Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	 ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 08:44:23 -0700
Message-ID: <15419fa8e5c0047327395387b28c09d775b35a55.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YLEM2WE0ezdrfMPt@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 18:31 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 08:27:44AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
[...]
> > Well, I'm not going to get into a debate over the effectiveness of
> > the current vaccines.  I will say that all conferences have to now
> > recognize that a sizeable proportion of former attendees will have
> > fears about travelling and therefore remote components are going to
> > be a fixture of conferences going forward.
> > 
> > However, while we should accommodate them, we can't let these fears
> > override people willing to take the risk and meet in person.
> 
> The interesting question is how we'll make sure that those people
> will not be de facto excluded from the community, or end up as
> second-class citizens.

Before the pandemic, there was a small contingent who refused to fly
for various reasons.  We did sort of accommodate that by rotating the
conference to Europe where more people could come in by train (like
they did in Lisbon) but we didn't govern the whole conference by trying
to make aerophobes first class citizens.

The bottom line is that as long as enough people are willing to meet in
person and in-person delivers more value that remote (even though we'll
try to make remote as valuable as possible) we should do it.   We
should not handicap the desires of the one group by the fears of the
other because that's a false equality ... it's reducing everyone to the
level of the lowest common denominator rather than trying to elevate
people.

James



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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-19 15:28 Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-28 10:29 ` Jiri Kosina
2021-04-30 21:48   ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-27 13:23     ` Christoph Lameter
2021-05-27 13:29       ` Greg KH
2021-05-28 14:58         ` James Bottomley
2021-05-28 15:11           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-28 15:27             ` James Bottomley
2021-05-28 15:31               ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-05-28 15:44                 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2021-05-28 15:55                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-05-28 16:04                     ` James Bottomley
2021-05-28 16:31                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-05-28 15:42             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-09 10:37           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-09 19:23             ` James Bottomley
2021-06-11 10:58               ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-10 18:07             ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-10 18:23               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-10 18:39                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-06-10 19:26                   ` Steven Rostedt
2021-06-10 19:55                     ` Shuah Khan
2021-06-10 20:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2021-06-10 20:20                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-10 20:31                           ` Steven Rostedt
2021-06-10 22:43                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-11  2:59                         ` Willy Tarreau
2021-06-11  9:13                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-06-11  9:51                             ` Willy Tarreau
2021-06-10 20:12                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-10 18:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-11 11:10           ` David Howells
2021-06-15 18:23             ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-15 18:30               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-15 18:34                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-15 18:40                 ` Laurent Pinchart

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