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Fri, 13 Mar 2020 07:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chatter.i7.local ([185.220.101.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w204sm7508882wma.1.2020.03.13.07.59.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:59:03 -0400 From: Konstantin Ryabitsev To: Jani Nikula Message-ID: <20200313145903.vwdpawgcve73hdmj@chatter.i7.local> Mail-Followup-To: Jani Nikula , Greg KH , "Bird, Tim" , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" References: <6d6dd6fa-880f-01fe-6177-281572aed703@labbott.name> <20200312003436.GF1639@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <877dzolf7n.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <877dzolf7n.fsf@intel.com> Cc: "Bird, Tim" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1286041778206719651==" Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" --===============1286041778206719651== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4lcrcqo4orbdsa5y" Content-Disposition: inline --4lcrcqo4orbdsa5y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:30:20PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > There is no way of knowing whether you're eligible to vote until you > apply for a kernel.org account and either get approved or rejected. >=20 > The current "obvious" requirement levels are not obvious to me. How many > contributions is enough? Is everyone in MAINTAINERS eligible, or do you > have to be a high-profile maintainer/developer? What is a high-profile > developer? How many people in the web of trust must you have met in > person? Anyone listed in MAINTAINERS is eligible to get an auto-approved account=20 on kernel.org, but they *must* satisfy the web of trust requirement: - their key is signed by 2 other people who already have a kernel.org=20 account (marginal trust), OR - their key is signed by one of the following people (full trust): - H. Peter Anvin - Greg Kroah-Hartman - Ted Ts'o - Linus Torvalds - Dirk Hohndel - James Bottomley Anyone who is not in MAINTAINERS but feel they should have an account on=20 kernel.org can still apply if they provide a reason behind their=20 request. Such cases are fairly rare and usually include collaboration on=20 non-kernel projects that are also hosted on kernel.org (there aren't=20 that many, but there are a few). The web of trust requirement is exactly=20 the same, but the final approval is not automatic. I forward these=20 requests to the above 6 people and it is sufficient for at least one=20 person to say "aye" for the account to be approved. It is also important to highlight a distinction between "having an=20 account" and having a kernel.org email forwarding address. For this=20 particular case I was requested to provide a list of people with *active=20 accounts* on kernel.org, meaning that they have performed a git+ssh=20 operation within the past 12 months. > And it actually seems like you think it's a good thing the admin team > can make a subjective decision on the above. The LF IT admin team does not make any decisions -- all decisions are=20 taken by the above 6 people (unless the person is in MAINTAINERS, in=20 which case their approval is implicit). > It may seem completely transparent and fair and objective on the > *inside*, but it does not look that way on the *outside*. Which is kind > of the definition of transparent. Or lack of. I hope I helped clarify the procedure. Of course, as the person actually=20 creating accounts I'm the final arbiter of all decisions. If I had any=20 malicious intents, I could totally subvert the whole process -- so in=20 the end you just have to trust me to be on the side of "lawful good." -K --4lcrcqo4orbdsa5y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYIAB0WIQR2vl2yUnHhSB5njDW2xBzjVmSZbAUCXmuftQAKCRC2xBzjVmSZ bJAtAQCpHec4XGPbIsLXVSLSnco3sea7WWrflVzmUOx3OKLChgEA67pYUzWNdmDv yVutxmm+efbawqG95EdbH1REDjLWgwg= =k55k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4lcrcqo4orbdsa5y-- --===============1286041778206719651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss --===============1286041778206719651==--