From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B487C433E0 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from silver.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C6892070C for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=wowana.me header.i=@wowana.me header.b="Ye8SGNdc" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 1C6892070C Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=wowana.me Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by silver.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5FC25DFC; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:55:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from silver.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E2IJHcSTAPSc; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [140.211.9.56]) by silver.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3823C25E18; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5443C08A9; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFE0C016F; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9D788661; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:00:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wtn92Cg5evZY; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:00:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:09:25 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx1.volatile.bz (mx1.volatile.bz [185.163.46.101]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D82438853D; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mahin.wowana.me (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:2db8:301:1845::2]) by mx1.volatile.bz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B94DF4E7; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 17:50:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=wowana.me; s=default; t=1593971441; bh=bSmlbJyHSCXLfi+Y6gH6+D6+oj2SR366tyTPTaadWy4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=Ye8SGNdcjLPDZsaSQcm65BclPp1Q4z1zdGR4HRjwcDJ+MQFHZDa53Jilbamfb8Wtw 3XZunKgbB2GzDEcOsoWWXDz8y0DJMXU4SjyVGvluekEX0eVVauHG8NHqTaomq6Zq5R AC2DvGzMSPl42Sd9FAp9uRtjySWuCXzNShDb5TKY= Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 17:50:31 +0000 From: opal hart To: Dave Airlie Message-ID: <20200705175031.4d7fa711@mahin.wowana.me> In-Reply-To: References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <1593897917.7058.11.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Organization: Volatile X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: &TPnio^VF7_~k^se; yA:fep*U; :Kzv1Q3'cYEY/#q"NyebT}po2wD}dNr}JF,f?%"Dh}(dq1C(0[dS`.(SJ2CDil=W'B9>O7p^P-+|v6Tj}|EJg8.&>YXtniHyR:=nf1,HE(NWu#C.GW MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 13:55:33 +0000 Cc: ksummit , Greg Kroah-Hartman , LKML , tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Chris Mason Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:39:29 +1000 Dave Airlie wrote: > I don't totally agree on that, because like the CoC discussion, people > need concrete examples. People need reasons, saying simply "be > inclusive" doesn't work. Which people? because so far the only people I've seen take these terminologies out of computing context, are those who are only voicing their "concern" out of bad faith, as well as those who fall for the concern-trolling bait. The meta-discussion serves to stir up noise and waste time that's better spent on other things. History pains, sure, but I believe it serves no justice to erase every trace of bad things that happened in history. That includes use of words tangentially related to such events. -- wowaname _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss