From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC829C433EB for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78BBE20704 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:42 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 78BBE20704 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ucw.cz Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CDD88271; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ISHp0-0p2o+8; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [140.211.9.56]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E38D88216; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD0FC0865; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F7CC0733; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EAD8818B; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4oiImgSTDiOq; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz (jabberwock.ucw.cz [46.255.230.98]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C0F588178; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix, from userid 1017) id 003E01C0BEB; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:35:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:35:27 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Dan Williams Message-ID: <20200717083527.GA1027@bug> References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Chris Mason Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" Hi! > +On the triviality of replacing words > +==================================== > + > +The African slave trade was a brutal system of human misery deployed at > +global scale. Some word choice decisions in a modern software project > +does next to nothing to compensate for that legacy. So why put any > +effort into something so trivial in comparison? Because the goal is not > +to repair, or erase the past. The goal is to maximize availability and > +efficiency of the global developer community to participate in the Linux > +kernel development process. I'd preffer to keep politics out of kernel. > +of 'blacklist' is devoid of a historical racial connection. However, one > +thought exercise is to consider replacing 'blacklist/whitelist' with > +'redlist/greenlist'. Realize that the replacement only makes sense if > +you have been socialized with the concepts that 'red/green' implies > +'stop/go'. Colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. The So you are trying to blacklist colors. That's stupid. > +socialization of 'black/white' to have the connotation of > +'impermissible/permissible' does not support inclusion. > + > +Inclusion == global developer community efficiency. It seems inclusion == reason to push politics and questionable patches into kernel. That is opposite of efficiency. :-( Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss