From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 1wt.eu (wtarreau.pck.nerim.net [62.212.114.60]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B749272 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from willy@localhost) by pcw.home.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15B9pm8p026247; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:51:48 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:51:48 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Toke =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= , Shuah Khan , Steven Rostedt , Laurent Pinchart , Konstantin Ryabitsev , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , David Hildenbrand , James Bottomley , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , "Theodore Ts'o" , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off Message-ID: <20210611095148.GC25968@1wt.eu> References: <5038827c-463f-232d-4dec-da56c71089bd@metux.net> <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> <20210610152633.7e4a7304@oasis.local.home> <37e8d1a5-7c32-8e77-bb05-f851c87a1004@linuxfoundation.org> <87tum5uyrq.fsf@toke.dk> <20210611025942.GE25638@1wt.eu> <20210611111248.250e6da8@coco.lan> X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210611111248.250e6da8@coco.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:13:07AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > The only thing is that it can be quite intimidating for > > local participants who are too shy of standing up in front of a > > microphone and everyone else. > > If someone is shy, he/she could simply type the question as a > remote participant would do. +1 > This should work fine for a normal speech, but for BoFs and the > usual "round table" discussions we have at Kernel Maintainers, > this may not work well for local participants. Indeed but for this one the problem is the same with those who are not much at ease with oral english. It's difficult to insert oneself into a discussion flow between multiple people speaking fast and naturally understanding what they're saying without having to think. So this situation is not new, and actually this ability to interact quickly is what makes such events profitable to a group, even if not everyone can participate at the same level. In such a case, it's the moderator's job to observe that some people want to say something and probably need a second or two of silence and concentration first. And this works both for local and remote ones. Willy