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From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Folios as a potential Kernel/Maintainers Summit topic?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 17:00:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210916210046.ourwrk6uqeisi555@meerkat.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <261D65D8-7273-4884-BD01-2BF8331F4034@fb.com>

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 08:38:13PM +0000, Chris Mason wrote:
> Agree here.  Mailing lists make it really hard to figure out when these
> conflicts are resolved, which is why I love using google docs for that part.

I would caution that Google docs aren't universally accessible. China blocks
access to many Google resources, and now Russia purportedly does the same.
Perhaps a similar effect can be reached with a git repository with limited
commit access? At least then commits can be attested to individual authors.

> A living document with a single source of truth on key design points, work
> remaining, and stakeholders who are responsible for ack/nack decisions.
> Basically if you don’t have edit permissions on the document, you’re not one
> of the people that can say no.
> 
> If you do have edit permissions, you’re expected to be on board with the
> overall goal and help work through the design/validation/code/etc until
> you’re ready to ack it, or until it’s clear the whole thing isn’t going to
> work.  If you feel you need to have edit permissions, you’ve got a defined
> set of people to talk with about it.
> 
> It can’t completely replace the mailing lists, but it can take a lot of the
> archeology out of understanding a given patch series and figuring out if
> it’s actually ready to go.

You can combine the two and use mailing lists as the source of truth by using
Link: tags in commits to make it easy to verify history and provenance.

-K

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-16 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-15 17:42 [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Folios as a potential Kernel/Maintainers Summit topic? Theodore Ts'o
2021-09-15 18:03 ` James Bottomley
2021-09-15 18:20   ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-09-15 18:41     ` Chris Mason
2021-09-15 19:15       ` James Bottomley
2021-09-15 20:48         ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-09-16 14:55           ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-16 13:51         ` David Howells
2021-09-16 16:46         ` Chris Mason
2021-09-16 17:11           ` James Bottomley
2021-09-16 19:15             ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-09-16 19:26               ` Andrew Morton
2021-09-16 20:16               ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-17  1:42                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-09-17  4:58                   ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-16 20:38             ` Chris Mason
2021-09-16 21:00               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2021-09-17 11:14                 ` James Bottomley
2021-09-17 12:36                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-09-17 13:00                     ` James Bottomley
2021-09-17 14:36                       ` Chris Mason
2021-09-16 17:15           ` Kent Overstreet
2021-09-16 22:27             ` Chris Mason

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