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charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" On 5 Jul 2020, at 0:55, Willy Tarreau wrote: > On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 01:02:51PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: >> +Non-inclusive terminology has that same distracting effect which is = >> why >> +it is a style issue for Linux, it injures developer efficiency. > > I'm personally thinking that for a non-native speaker it's already > difficult to find the best term to describe something, but having to > apply an extra level of filtering on the found words to figure whether > they are allowed by the language police is even more difficult. Since our discussions are public, we=92ve always had to deal with = comments from people outside the community on a range of topics. But = inside the kernel, it=92s just a group of developers trying to help each = other produce the best quality of code. We=92ve got a long history = together and in general I think we=92re pretty good at assuming good = intent. > *This* > injures developers efficiency. What could improve developers = > efficiency > is to take care of removing *all* idiomatic or cultural words then. = > For > example I've been participating to projects using the term = > "blueprint", > I didn't understand what that meant. It was once explained to me and > given that it had no logical reason for being called this way, I now > forgot. If we follow your reasoning, Such words should be banned for > exactly the same reasons. Same for colors that probably don't mean > anything to those born blind. > > For example if in my local culture we eat tomatoes at starters and > apples for dessert, it could be convenient for me to use "tomato" and > "apple" as list elements to name the pointers leading to the beginning > and the end of the list, and it might sound obvious to many people, = > but > not at all for many others. > > Maybe instead of providing an explicit list of a few words it should > simply say that terms that take their roots in the non-technical world > and whose meaning can only be understood based on history or local > culture ought to be avoided, because *that* actually is the real > root cause of the problem you're trying to address. I=92d definitely agree that it=92s a good goal to keep out non-technical = terms. Even though we already try, every subsystem has its own set of = patterns that reflect the most frequent contributors. -chris _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss