From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D17DC433C1 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C87046192E for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org C87046192E Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6963F403AC; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NF3DxGdoAaXt; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010:104::8cd3:938]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66667403AD; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B548C000C; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F34C000A for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD3B607DF for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Authentication-Results: smtp3.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tyHLo7JwmV9z for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [45.79.88.28]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05F51607DE for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:281:8300:104d::5f6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA6595CC; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:44:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 ms.lwn.net EA6595CC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lwn.net; s=20201203; t=1617057862; bh=EKvmVbzD//QNEEEuaeTgAwCcHafiUeTm6qRa1v6UhRU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=sYOtGao+7Dz0cFmHAFPNFvdh2Yu9lNiRnH7BZooXPXQ03s006cMRFxZ7lELQrk7Ht DAuw9DQgpfKLCJcKPcl/aflDdDk61+qlhrkWTImsKVIoekHLDsHtdYhR+5q6wrDnGD CsU2AGIQJGF9ao20InPcr+7B2SFMcmjNDCiNSbwhhJjyrvGsUjghj78rdRUa1doXSN 6nNP4nAY9zrYtndA+Se8wPQqE52twACfVAnlfv/FduafJkEsCab5htgpUXiKPLfKGc 3un9ieOFYZHYOyaEQ5SH85S7jeuevYTugykM66xQQA7/8o1ecI56g6F63qLmKWfc/O 1o/bwKaHRjHYw== From: Jonathan Corbet To: Thorsten Leemhuis , ksummit , Greg KH , Sasha Levin , Randy Dunlap In-Reply-To: <14d9b8a3-94ce-00a6-a17b-934ffd999697@leemhuis.info> References: <6a220d2c-568e-2e41-53a4-0800e206d0a6@leemhuis.info> <14d9b8a3-94ce-00a6-a17b-934ffd999697@leemhuis.info> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 16:44:21 -0600 Message-ID: <87r1jxpol6.fsf@meer.lwn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [1/5] reporting-issues: header and TLDR X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" Thorsten Leemhuis writes: > FWIW, on another channel someone mentioned the process in the TLDR is > quite complicated when it comes to regressions in stable and longterm > kernels. I looked at the text and it seemed like a valid complaint, esp. > as those regressions are something we really care about. > > To solve this properly I sadly had to shake up the text in this section > completely and rewrite parts of it. Find the result below. I'm quite > happy with it, as it afaics is more straight forward and easier to > understand. And it matches the step-by-step guide better. And the best > thing: it's a bit shorter than the old TLDR. I think this is much improved - concise is good! :) I really just have one little comment... > I'll wait a day or two and then will send it through the regular review > together with a few small other fixes that piled up for the text, just > wanted to add it here for completeness. > > --- > The short guide (aka TL;DR) > =========================== > > Are you facing a regression with vanilla kernels from the same stable or > longterm series? One still supported? Then search the `LKML > `_ and the `Linux stable mailing list > _` archives for matching reports to > join. If you don't find any, install `the latest release from that > series `_. If it still shows the issue, report it > to the stable mailing list and the stable maintainers. If we really want this to be a short guide that gets people to the answer quickly, we might as well put the addresses to report to right here rather than making people search for them. Thanks, jon _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss