From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com [213.167.242.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 324FC3FCB for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pendragon.ideasonboard.com (62-78-145-57.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.145.57]) by perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D80B0BB0; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 00:27:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ideasonboard.com; s=mail; t=1630016843; bh=qdqcgKLlsehYPDRQLtoWR5Uy2sZgccWzgCRbumLVjVY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=b6P1+lMDdfrBM3m6qyc60TqrP4iTEUaBuC17upXGh1cbFG8WcWwynupQF6x1K39Tn P9EeMrTW7kOEV9etbytUhMFyhnFELFzJM78IxlC0mRLoafAmJzn0IeNk2SWQ2UXqWg M/BlZGzGTQSRwXcpnAOcncJvEmW9pzXFVRj4cDFM= Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 01:27:10 +0300 From: Laurent Pinchart To: Linus Walleij Cc: Alex Levin , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Jesse Barnes Subject: Re: kSummit proposal - The Linux kernel in ChromeOS Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:07:56AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 3:06 AM Alex Levin wrote: > > > - Testing the upstream RC on as many platforms as we can as early as we can. > > - Updating the Linux kernel on existing platforms (millions of users at a time). > > - Managing technical “debt” and keeping the ChromeOS kernel as close > > as possible to the upstream kernel. > > - Current pain points in dealing with upstream. > > > > We feel 45-60 minutes would be enough and will allow a discussion. > > I think this is really interesting. > > Also explain what this stuff is: drivers/platform/chrome/* and why it is > so necessarily different and can't live in existing subsystems? > > Also: your experience with using ACPI and when firmware can be > fixed and when it can not, and when/if the kernel has to accommodate > quirks rather than fixing the firmware. Could this also include lessons learnt related to convincing and helping SoC vendors to upstream drivers ? -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart