From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mout-xforward.gmx.net (mout-xforward.gmx.net [82.165.159.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBCCB33C1; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 12:25:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1664886332; bh=qgZLLV2aHolUAywGvI48mu/krYEdR9x8qhwAEtcjS30=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=Yr1N3GCEyxE01B9mikDVxPP+ehztXMVFiyQjzKMMNwFLfQh634cgAZAinMyEPztFm 3kj4EMLj7vJqMjUJF6mG2MMiKrr/tHF8VsRJezxt9URDMoCbgdpbhHOpLdCMlOUstc Ll3iDZS8rJ0YDC+PFQnBavDIEO2JC8k9+aVj1VA8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [10.17.110.14] ([143.244.37.77]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MMobU-1owFw00BL2-00Ioog; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 14:25:32 +0200 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 12:24:23 +0000 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" To: Konstantin Ryabitsev , Mike Rapoport Cc: Al Viro , Steven Rostedt , Theodore Ts'o , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello References: <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> <20221002141321.394de676@rorschach.local.home> <6de0925c-a98a-219e-eed2-ba898ef974f8@gmx.com> <20221002180844.2e91b1f1@rorschach.local.home> <3a3b9346-e243-e178-f8dd-f8e1eacdc6ae@gmx.com> <20221003153718.o7fhrain5fnwwu3l@meerkat.local> From: "Artem S. Tashkinov" In-Reply-To: <20221003153718.o7fhrain5fnwwu3l@meerkat.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:FFItU/whtuMQMf/VRXiFBX+iDYB40ULkQsUsptF9dFHoDW28zZr RqLq305Bxwqr49UymOCCiwHmGqyt26l0JxxLXwxhs9a2enOkImn104sdQxJNFyz4AM6mzHK KvHxqMvezQUZRd/7z/WBQwzWu3cuaA3Ap5vx1haHCjpT+xSJvAdG6qj6FUCbK+2oPYFr7jF JuuIW65C/juKq5542ALkA== X-Spam-Flag: YES X-UI-Out-Filterresults: junk:10;V03:K0:57+dta1fYB0=:6PreiOUc6q1/usH2KkjpXfSl LUVpqupnzJshXhr3Qav9S/ZKDCwYTwytjscdskLB5z/apwRh6Qe/8eZi294dGGofnbi0TQfqi TNRY8thL8kD0mKErr23ccDngLJRzBId9cK1VYYw3gn52LqnuPMORwHvHPDm52iTFMDRY6dCBb TLKzNGjIqJHFxsJkSOlh0sdQbPEqRnW0ALbAhe32McTw16feNeLEaBmFS5DGE5nZWq7XZHMYc GVr5VDwYuinaCLKAwxm0P3sJJd/urByAl0o6nTQiU1PECVz3VAGrhIA+O6vWM5Wimj7do6Oqe Z2L4NpoId7IbjNCbSL9u+EAL/PH4Ok8Uz9k+D/75l3UJh11BDoMfsaaX3HCdV2Te4GqIfYV58 Az00chyh/q5Whv5CeerMcyy0ws1LExjba3c0d4FN7lwOgQFG3nWpafps4F39WcORGoWPurr/7 qXycVOVxYHgIakw9dr/eeGgb3jnGEhqNvPm/kQTunVQ27a3k00n4lk1cl6QhivVdTpD2Sv5iH NdrUmtAfDjQAUxtyganmyp8deqIcRLO64qkZz0GqpExkQoBT21oNyw/YeWfvYbwmiYXwgLlXe FDjffVKCafWR/Jk2AcbBm9pYFJKLFN46cta2DYOvcINd7bQIEe5r4xflgBJOKfC8EOdFxmsYS dAVI/Tq4xbUPXYVYd5yBPZeOhUOB4w0gg0i37D9joGQWSFVt0ZB+Qy/KDg56WLKgOCpgodmSs uuAvN0PuG1Xrcu3MqxMfOMsEXujWKPN27FsCJoS5C3rElkO61MHncRLhJUNyp5/f4dC5vYF/z tpSisFP8Cd7NtE9FU7ixXt2SaMgZKUJNNSgKpoahYWnDVmFY/paBOTvFZLSiPQtaPCnLBPNke Sc+lzlbiuKBTnFnoMfmt4QDrSDtOnVgHoDRAIvMDdyy6kK3UhXqdV44mlNDekozMnuXEsIfp8 khdyFI/wxGh0mZ2XkqEYCM75/Wqx6l8BbHWD065QeKAWg2RYMkcG0aklmUIcrIfDunl70GJEP jp+Btb/d1H3IUOCWlYybiuS3eOaCUN9T2xXu4Vsp9zlkm2rLyaQAYWVdYE3nIEL/oHPtkTC4M k2q6rIIiT62TfsdfT3qwH5WV99KTpTABgrfHdAHGT+gpTPZQL9AaoPx5A8OB4G6VxmXTRXEbz rvyx5yV0KP3Fgf+lnOaFgiI1oBYZaX46ZQj1GgI5Oc+KuA== On 10/3/22 15:37, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 11:55:25AM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote: >> If I'm not mistaken, bugzilla lets CC people explicitly. How the databa= se >> of emails in bugzilla would help choosing the right people to CC better >> than MAINTAINERS? > > It can't, actually, which is I think is the crux of misunderstanding her= e. I > think what Artem is proposing is to *auto-create bugzilla accounts* for = anyone > who shows up in MAINTAINERS, so that they can be cc'd on a bug report. > However, everyone understood this as "add these people as default assign= ees," > which is not the case. > > If we auto-create accounts for MAINTAINERS, that would allow them to be = cc'd > by an actual human being triaging bugs, but won't lead to any discernabl= e > increase of bugzilla mail. > > Artem, please correct me if I'm wrong. Exactly. Only maintainers and mailing lists will be assigned automatically as it is _now_. Other developers need to be CC'ed _manually_= . There's no SPAM issue or never has been about what I proposed. Absolute most people will never CC anyone 'cause bug reporters are normally quite lazy or not experienced enough to grep git logs. You're absolutely right. Best regards, Artem