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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, systemtap-ml <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 0/6 V4] tracing: kprobe-based event tracer
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:26:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090403122654.GA19451@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D5FE42.5080100@redhat.com>


* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> kvm has three requirements not needed by kprobes:
>>> - it wants to execute instructions, not just decode them, including   
>>>   generating faults where appropriate
>>> - it is performance critical
>>> - it needs to support 16-bit, 32-bit, and 64-bit instructions simultaneously
>>>
>>> If an arch/x86/ decoder/emulator gives me these I'll gladly switch  
>>> to it.  x86_emulate.c is high on my list of most disliked code.
>>>     
>>
>> Well, this has to be driven from the KVM side as the kprobes use 
>> will only be for decoding so if it's modified from the kprobes 
>> side the KVM-only functionality might regress.
>>
>> So ... we can do the library decoder for kprobes purposes, and 
>> someone versed in the KVM emulator can then combine the two.
>
> Problem is, anyone versed in the kvm emulator will want to run as 
> far away from this work as possible.

Are you suggesting that the KVM emulator should never have been 
merged in the first place? ;-)

Anyway, we'll make sure the kprobes/library decoder is as clean as 
possible - so it ought to be hackable and extensible without the 
risk of permanent brain damage. Mmiotrace and kmemcheck has decoding 
smarts too, and i think the sw-breakpoint injection code of KGDB 
could use it as well - so there's broader utility in all this.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-03 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-02 17:24 [PATCH -tip 0/6 V4] tracing: kprobe-based event tracer Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-03 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 11:32   ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-03 11:50   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 12:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 12:17       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 12:26         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-03 12:33           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:16           ` Vegard Nossum
2009-04-03 13:40             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:52             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-05 19:37               ` Pekka Paalanen
2009-04-06  7:53                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 12:25       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-03 14:21     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-03 14:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 16:55         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-03 17:59           ` Jim Keniston
2009-04-03 14:30       ` Avi Kivity

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