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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
	aaron.lu@intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, bsd@redhat.com,
	darrick.wong@oracle.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	jgg@mellanox.com, jwadams@google.com, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	mhocko@kernel.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	Pavel.Tatashin@microsoft.com, prasad.singamsetty@oracle.com,
	rdunlap@infradead.org, steven.sistare@oracle.com,
	tim.c.chen@intel.com, vbabka@suse.cz, peterz@infradead.org,
	dhaval.giani@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 00/13] ktask: multithread CPU-intensive kernel work
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 08:16:33 -0800
Message-ID: <20181203161633.GK2509588@devbig004.ftw2.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181201001307.wmb6o4fuysnl7vcz@ca-dmjordan1.us.oracle.com>

Hello,

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 04:13:07PM -0800, Daniel Jordan wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:18:19AM -0800, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:45AM -0500, Daniel Jordan wrote:
> > > Michal, you mentioned that ktask should be sensitive to CPU utilization[1].
> > > ktask threads now run at the lowest priority on the system to avoid disturbing
> > > busy CPUs (more details in patches 4 and 5).  Does this address your concern?
> > > The plan to address your other comments is explained below.
> > 
> > Have you tested what kind of impact this has on bandwidth of a system
> > in addition to latency?  The thing is while this would make a better
> > use of a system which has idle capacity, it does so by doing more
> > total work.  It'd be really interesting to see how this affects
> > bandwidth of a system too.
> 
> I guess you mean something like comparing aggregate CPU time across threads to
> the base single thread time for some job or set of jobs?  Then no, I haven't
> measured that, but I can for next time.

Yeah, I'm primarily curious how expensive this is on an already loaded
system, so sth like loading up the system with a workload which can
saturate the system and comparing the bw impacts of serial and
parallel page clearings at the same frequency.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-05 16:55 Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/13] ktask: add documentation Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 21:19   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-11-06  2:27     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-06  8:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-06 20:34     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-06 20:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-07 10:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-07 20:21           ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-07 10:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-07 21:20         ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-08 17:26   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-08 19:15     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-08 19:24       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-27 19:50   ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-28 16:56     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/13] ktask: multithread CPU-intensive kernel work Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 20:51   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-11-06  2:24     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/13] ktask: add undo support Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/13] ktask: run helper threads at MAX_NICE Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/13] workqueue, ktask: renice helper threads to prevent starvation Daniel Jordan
2018-11-13 16:34   ` Tejun Heo
2018-11-19 16:45     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-20 16:33       ` Tejun Heo
2018-11-20 17:03         ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/13] vfio: parallelize vfio_pin_map_dma Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 21:51   ` Alex Williamson
2018-11-06  2:42     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/13] mm: change locked_vm's type from unsigned long to atomic_long_t Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/13] vfio: remove unnecessary mmap_sem writer acquisition around locked_vm Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/13] vfio: relieve mmap_sem reader cacheline bouncing by holding it longer Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/13] mm: enlarge type of offset argument in mem_map_offset and mem_map_next Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/13] mm: parallelize deferred struct page initialization within each node Daniel Jordan
2018-11-10  3:48   ` Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
2018-11-12 16:54     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-12 22:15       ` Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
2018-11-19 16:01         ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-27  0:12           ` Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
2018-11-27 20:23             ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-19 16:29       ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/13] mm: parallelize clear_gigantic_page Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/13] hugetlbfs: parallelize hugetlbfs_fallocate with ktask Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH v4 00/13] ktask: multithread CPU-intensive kernel work Michal Hocko
2018-11-06  1:29   ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-06  9:21     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-07 20:17       ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-05 18:49 ` Zi Yan
2018-11-06  2:20   ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-06  2:48     ` Zi Yan
2018-11-06 19:00       ` Daniel Jordan
2018-11-30 19:18 ` Tejun Heo
2018-12-01  0:13   ` Daniel Jordan
2018-12-03 16:16     ` Tejun Heo [this message]

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