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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 23/27] x86/fpu: Defer FPU state load until return to userspace
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:29:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190412172931.GI19808@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190412171955.npe2pbomc6np326v@linutronix.de>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 07:19:55PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> remove x86_fpu_activate_state.

Ok, zapping it as part of this patch.

> We could also rip all trcepoints out, rethink the situation and add new
> ones based on current code.

Well, since this changes FPU regs handling considerably, I think the
only correct step would be to adjust the tracepoints. BUT(!) we should
not forget we're not supposed to break luserspace.

> - on schedule out, we may need to save registers (depending on
>   TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD) which is new. Before the series we always did.

That makes sense.

> - on schedule in do nothing but set that TIF bit. This is probably
>   boring.

Yah.

> - on return to userland we should load the registers but can avoid it if
>   we assume that they are valid for the current task
>   (fpregs_state_valid())

That is interesting info.

> - in kernel_fpu_begin() we may trash the task's FPU state (by saving its
>   registers or by resetting fpu_fpregs_owner_ctx).

Do we care?

You mean, in case you have workloads which might involve a lot of
in-kernel FPU use which would punish task context switches?

> Those might be interesting.
> 
> Currently we have:
>   "x86/fpu: %p load: %d xfeatures: %llx xcomp_bv: %llx"
> 
> and we have to find out what happens based on where that TP was
> recorded. Also I'm not sure if the recorded xfeatures change over time.
> I think they do not…

Good question.

> you mean trace_x86_fpu_activate_state and trace_x86_fpu_regs_activated?
> They were added in d1898b733619b ("x86/fpu: Add tracepoints to dump FPU
> state at key points") and we wouldn't have any otherwise.

I guess it made sense then...

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-12 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-03 16:41 [PATCH v9 00/27] x86: load FPU registers on return to userland Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 01/27] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized usage in __fpu__restore_sig() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:46   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 02/27] x86/fpu: Remove fpu__restore() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:47   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 03/27] x86/fpu: Remove preempt_disable() in fpu__clear() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:48   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 04/27] x86/fpu: Always init the `state' " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:48   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/fpu: Always init the state " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 05/27] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized usage in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:49   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 06/27] x86/fpu: Don't save fxregs for ia32 frames " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:50   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 07/27] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:50   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 08/27] x86/fpu: Remove user_fpu_begin() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:51   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 09/27] x86/fpu: Add (__)make_fpregs_active helpers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:52   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/fpu: Add an __fpregs_load_activate() internal helper tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 10/27] x86/fpu: Make __raw_xsave_addr() use feature number instead of mask Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:52   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/fpu: Make __raw_xsave_addr() use a " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 11/27] x86/fpu: Make get_xsave_field_ptr() and get_xsave_addr() use " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:53   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/fpu: Use a feature number instead of mask in two more helpers tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 12/27] x86/pkru: Provide .*_pkru_ins() functions Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-10 16:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-10 16:52     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-10 21:25       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-10 21:29         ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-11 13:24           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-13 20:54   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/pkeys: Provide *pkru() helpers tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 13/27] x86/fpu: Only write PKRU if it is different from current Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:55   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 14/27] x86/pkeys: Don't check if PKRU is zero before writting it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:55   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/pkeys: Don't check if PKRU is zero before writing it tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 15/27] x86/fpu: Eager switch PKRU state Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:56   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 16/27] x86/entry: Add TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:57   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 17/27] x86/fpu: Always store the registers in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:57   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 18/27] x86/fpu: Prepare copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() for TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:58   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 19/27] x86/fpu: Update xstate's PKRU value on write_pkru() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-08 18:14   ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-08 20:03     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 20:59   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 20/27] x86/fpu: Inline copy_user_to_fpregs_zeroing() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:00   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 21/27] x86/fpu: Let __fpu__restore_sig() restore the !32bit+fxsr frame from kernel memory Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:00   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/fpu: Restore from kernel memory on the 64-bit path too tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 22/27] x86/fpu: Merge the two code paths in __fpu__restore_sig() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:01   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 23/27] x86/fpu: Defer FPU state load until return to userspace Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-12 14:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-12 15:24     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-12 16:22       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-12 16:37         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-12 16:48           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-12 17:19             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-12 17:29               ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2019-04-15  9:14                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:02   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 24/27] x86/fpu: Add a fastpath to __fpu__restore_sig() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-08 17:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-08 20:02     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-09  7:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-12 17:17   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-12 17:27     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:02   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 25/27] x86/fpu: Add a fastpath to copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:03   ` [tip:x86/fpu] " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 26/27] x86/fpu: Restore FPU register in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() in order to use the fastpath Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:04   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/fpu: Restore regs " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-03 16:41 ` [PATCH 27/27] x86/pkeys: add PKRU value to init_fpstate Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-13 21:05   ` [tip:x86/fpu] x86/pkeys: Add " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-04 14:01 ` [PATCH v9 00/27] x86: load FPU registers on return to userland David Laight
2019-04-04 14:14   ` 'Sebastian Andrzej Siewior'
2019-04-04 14:26     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-04 14:31       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-04 15:10       ` David Laight
2019-04-08 17:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-12 18:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-15  8:58   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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