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From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] vsock/virtio: limit the memory used per-socket
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:50:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190729165056.r32uzj6om3o6vfvp@steredhat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190729161903.yhaj5rfcvleexkhc@steredhat>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 06:19:03PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:49:02AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:36:56PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:04:29AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 01:30:26PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > > > Since virtio-vsock was introduced, the buffers filled by the host
> > > > > and pushed to the guest using the vring, are directly queued in
> > > > > a per-socket list. These buffers are preallocated by the guest
> > > > > with a fixed size (4 KB).
> > > > > 
> > > > > The maximum amount of memory used by each socket should be
> > > > > controlled by the credit mechanism.
> > > > > The default credit available per-socket is 256 KB, but if we use
> > > > > only 1 byte per packet, the guest can queue up to 262144 of 4 KB
> > > > > buffers, using up to 1 GB of memory per-socket. In addition, the
> > > > > guest will continue to fill the vring with new 4 KB free buffers
> > > > > to avoid starvation of other sockets.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This patch mitigates this issue copying the payload of small
> > > > > packets (< 128 bytes) into the buffer of last packet queued, in
> > > > > order to avoid wasting memory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > > This is good enough for net-next, but for net I think we
> > > > should figure out how to address the issue completely.
> > > > Can we make the accounting precise? What happens to
> > > > performance if we do?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > In order to do more precise accounting maybe we can use the buffer size,
> > > instead of payload size when we update the credit available.
> > > In this way, the credit available for each socket will reflect the memory
> > > actually used.
> > > 
> > > I should check better, because I'm not sure what happen if the peer sees
> > > 1KB of space available, then it sends 1KB of payload (using a 4KB
> > > buffer).
> > > 
> > > The other option is to copy each packet in a new buffer like I did in
> > > the v2 [2], but this forces us to make a copy for each packet that does
> > > not fill the entire buffer, perhaps too expensive.
> > > 
> > > [2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10938741/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Stefano
> > 
> > Interesting. You are right, and at some level the protocol forces copies.
> > 
> > We could try to detect that the actual memory is getting close to
> > admin limits and force copies on queued packets after the fact.
> > Is that practical?
> 
> Yes, I think it is doable!
> We can decrease the credit available with the buffer size queued, and
> when the buffer size of packet to queue is bigger than the credit
> available, we can copy it.
> 
> > 
> > And yes we can extend the credit accounting to include buffer size.
> > That's a protocol change but maybe it makes sense.
> 
> Since we send to the other peer the credit available, maybe this
> change can be backwards compatible (I'll check better this).

What I said was wrong.

We send a counter (increased when the user consumes the packets) and the
"buf_alloc" (the max memory allowed) to the other peer.
It makes a difference between a local counter (increased when the
packets are sent) and the remote counter to calculate the credit available:

    u32 virtio_transport_get_credit(struct virtio_vsock_sock *vvs, u32 credit)
    {
    	u32 ret;

    	spin_lock_bh(&vvs->tx_lock);
    	ret = vvs->peer_buf_alloc - (vvs->tx_cnt - vvs->peer_fwd_cnt);
    	if (ret > credit)
    		ret = credit;
    	vvs->tx_cnt += ret;
    	spin_unlock_bh(&vvs->tx_lock);

    	return ret;
    }

Maybe I can play with "buf_alloc" to take care of bytes queued but not
used.

Thanks,
Stefano

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-17 11:30 [PATCH v4 0/5] vsock/virtio: optimizations to increase the throughput Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] vsock/virtio: limit the memory used per-socket Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 14:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29 15:36     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 15:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29 16:19         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 16:50           ` Stefano Garzarella [this message]
2019-07-29 19:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-30  9:35               ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-30 20:42                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 10:47                   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-08-01 13:21                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 13:36                       ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-01  8:26                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-01 10:17                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-02  9:57                             ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-02 15:23                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  4:39                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  7:45                                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-03  7:52                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  8:00                                     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 16:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29 16:41         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 19:33           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-30  9:40     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-01  6:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-02  8:39         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-09-02  8:55           ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-11 13:40         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-11 14:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-11 14:23             ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-14  8:17           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-14  8:21             ` Jason Wang
2019-10-14  8:38               ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] vsock/virtio: reduce credit update messages Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  8:36   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-09-03  4:38   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  7:31     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-03  7:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] vsock/virtio: fix locking in virtio_transport_inc_tx_pkt() Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 14:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  7:43     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  8:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] vhost/vsock: split packets to send using multiple buffers Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 14:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  7:50     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-18  8:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  9:37         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-18 11:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-19  8:08             ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-19  8:21               ` Jason Wang
2019-07-19  8:39                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-19  8:51                   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-19  9:20                     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  9:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] vsock/virtio: change the maximum packet size allowed Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 14:59   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  7:52     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-18 12:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-19  8:29         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  9:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-22  9:08 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] vsock/virtio: optimizations to increase the throughput Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-22  9:14   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 13:12     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-29 13:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-30  9:40   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-30 10:03     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-30 15:38       ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-03  8:02 ` request for stable (was Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] vsock/virtio: optimizations to increase the throughput) Michael S. Tsirkin

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