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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cjia@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:07:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190809100714.6b012f41.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190808170247.1fc2c4c4@x1.home>

On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 17:02:47 -0600
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu,  8 Aug 2019 09:12:53 -0500
> Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com> wrote:
> 
> > Currently mtty sample driver uses mdev state and UUID in convoluated way to
> > generate an interrupt.
> > It uses several translations from mdev_state to mdev_device to mdev uuid.
> > After which it does linear search of long uuid comparision to
> > find out mdev_state in mtty_trigger_interrupt().
> > mdev_state is already available while generating interrupt from which all
> > such translations are done to reach back to mdev_state.
> > 
> > This translations are done during interrupt generation path.
> > This is unnecessary and reduandant.  
> 
> Is the interrupt handling efficiency of this particular sample driver
> really relevant, or is its purpose more to illustrate the API and
> provide a proof of concept?  If we go to the trouble to optimize the
> sample driver and remove this interface from the API, what do we lose?

Not sure how useful the sample driver is as a template; blindly copying
their interrupt handling is probably not a good idea.

> 
> This interface was added via commit:
> 
> 99e3123e3d72 vfio-mdev: Make mdev_device private and abstract interfaces
> 
> Where the goal was to create a more formal interface and abstract
> driver access to the struct mdev_device.  In part this served to make
> out-of-tree mdev vendor drivers more supportable; the object is
> considered opaque and access is provided via an API rather than through
> direct structure fields.
> 
> I believe that the NVIDIA GRID mdev driver does make use of this
> interface and it's likely included in the sample driver specifically so
> that there is an in-kernel user for it (ie. specifically to avoid it
> being removed so casually).  An interesting feature of the NVIDIA mdev
> driver is that I believe it has portions that run in userspace.  As we
> know, mdevs are named with a UUID, so I can imagine there are some
> efficiencies to be gained in having direct access to the UUID for a
> device when interacting with userspace, rather than repeatedly parsing
> it from a device name.  Is that really something we want to make more
> difficult in order to optimize a sample driver?  Knowing that an mdev
> device uses a UUID for it's name, as tools like libvirt and mdevctl
> expect, is it really worthwhile to remove such a trivial API?

Ripping out the uuid is a bad idea, I agree. The device name simply is
no good replacement for that.

If there's a good use case for using the uuid in a vendor driver, let's
keep the accessor. But then we probably should either leave the sample
driver alone, or add a more compelling use of the api there.

> 
> > Hence,
> > Patch-1 simplifies mtty sample driver to directly use mdev_state.
> > 
> > Patch-2, Since no production driver uses mdev_uuid(), simplifies and
> > removes redandant mdev_uuid() exported symbol.  
> 
> s/no production driver/no in-kernel production driver/
> 
> I'd be interested to hear how the NVIDIA folks make use of this API
> interface.  Thanks,
> 
> Alex
> 
> > ---
> > Changelog:
> > v1->v2:
> >  - Corrected email of Kirti
> >  - Updated cover letter commit log to address comment from Cornelia
> >  - Added Reviewed-by tag
> > v0->v1:
> >  - Updated commit log
> > 
> > Parav Pandit (2):
> >   vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation
> >   vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev UUID
> > 
> >  drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c |  6 ------
> >  include/linux/mdev.h          |  1 -
> >  samples/vfio-mdev/mtty.c      | 39 +++++++----------------------------
> >  3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
> >   
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-09  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-02  6:59 [PATCH 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-02  6:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-06  8:15   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-02  6:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev name Parav Pandit
2019-08-06  8:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-06 13:12     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18   ` [PATCH v1 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18   ` [PATCH v1 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev UUID Parav Pandit
2019-08-07  9:28     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-07 16:33       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-08  8:29         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-08 14:01           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-08 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-08 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-23 20:48     ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-08 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev UUID Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-16 15:22     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-08 23:02   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Alex Williamson
2019-08-09  8:07     ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2019-08-12 11:35     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-13 14:40       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 14:52         ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-13 16:28           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:34             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-13 17:11             ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-14  5:54               ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14  8:01                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 12:27                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14 13:09                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 13:45                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14 14:57                         ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-14 16:21                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20  8:58                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20  9:58                               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-20 11:25                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20 16:31                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-21  2:42                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20 17:19                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-20 17:55                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-21  3:57                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  3:42                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  4:20                                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  4:40                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  4:57                                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  5:01                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  5:26                                           ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  6:23                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22  9:29                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22  9:42                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22  9:58                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22 10:04                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22 12:19                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22 13:33                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23  8:12                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-23  8:14                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 14:28                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 14:53                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 15:04                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-23 15:52                                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 16:14                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 17:16                                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 18:00                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 19:43                                                                           ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-24  3:56                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-24  4:45                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-24  4:59                                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-24  5:22                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-13 17:40           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-14  5:30             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 14:48     ` Parav Pandit

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