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David Alan Gilbert" , Vitaly Kuznetsov , Alex Williamson , "Wang, Zhenyu Z" Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 04/15] KVM: Implement ring-based dirty memory tracking Message-ID: <20191217052502.GF21868@joy-OptiPlex-7040> Reply-To: Yan Zhao References: <20191203184600.GB19877@linux.intel.com> <374f18f1-0592-9b70-adbb-0a72cc77d426@redhat.com> <20191209215400.GA3352@xz-x1> <20191210155259.GD3352@xz-x1> <3e6cb5ec-66c0-00ab-b75e-ad2beb1d216d@redhat.com> <20191215172124.GA83861@xz-x1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: kvm@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 01:17:29PM +0800, Tian, Kevin wrote: > > From: Tian, Kevin > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 10:29 AM > > > > > From: Paolo Bonzini > > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 6:08 PM > > > > > > [Alex and Kevin: there are doubts below regarding dirty page tracking > > > from VFIO and mdev devices, which perhaps you can help with] > > > > > > On 15/12/19 18:21, Peter Xu wrote: > > > > init_rmode_tss > > > > vmx_set_tss_addr > > > > kvm_vm_ioctl_set_tss_addr [*] > > > > init_rmode_identity_map > > > > vmx_create_vcpu [*] > > > > > > These don't matter because their content is not visible to userspace > > > (the backing storage is mmap-ed by __x86_set_memory_region). In fact, d > > > > > > > vmx_write_pml_buffer > > > > kvm_arch_write_log_dirty [&] > > > > kvm_write_guest > > > > kvm_hv_setup_tsc_page > > > > kvm_guest_time_update [&] > > > > nested_flush_cached_shadow_vmcs12 [&] > > > > kvm_write_wall_clock [&] > > > > kvm_pv_clock_pairing [&] > > > > kvmgt_rw_gpa [?] > > > > > > This then expands (partially) to > > > > > > intel_gvt_hypervisor_write_gpa > > > emulate_csb_update > > > emulate_execlist_ctx_schedule_out > > > complete_execlist_workload > > > complete_current_workload > > > workload_thread > > > emulate_execlist_ctx_schedule_in > > > prepare_execlist_workload > > > prepare_workload > > > dispatch_workload > > > workload_thread > > > > > > So KVMGT is always writing to GPAs instead of IOVAs and basically > > > bypassing a guest IOMMU. So here it would be better if kvmgt was > > > changed not use kvm_write_guest (also because I'd probably have nacked > > > that if I had known :)). > > > > I agree. > > > > > > > > As far as I know, there is some work on live migration with both VFIO > > > and mdev, and that probably includes some dirty page tracking API. > > > kvmgt could switch to that API, or there could be VFIO APIs similar to > > > kvm_write_guest but taking IOVAs instead of GPAs. Advantage: this would > > > fix the GPA/IOVA confusion. Disadvantage: userspace would lose the > > > tracking of writes from mdev devices. Kevin, are these writes used in > > > any way? Do the calls to intel_gvt_hypervisor_write_gpa covers all > > > writes from kvmgt vGPUs, or can the hardware write to memory as well > > > (which would be my guess if I didn't know anything about kvmgt, which I > > > pretty much don't)? > > > > intel_gvt_hypervisor_write_gpa covers all writes due to software mediation. > > > > for hardware updates, it needs be mapped in IOMMU through > > vfio_pin_pages > > before any DMA happens. The ongoing dirty tracking effort in VFIO will take > > every pinned page through that API as dirtied. > > > > However, currently VFIO doesn't implement any vfio_read/write_guest > > interface yet. and it doesn't make sense to use vfio_pin_pages for software > > dirtied pages, as pin is unnecessary and heavy involving iommu invalidation. > > One correction. vfio_pin_pages doesn't involve iommu invalidation. I should > just mean that pinning the page is not necessary. We just need a kvm-like > interface based on hva to access. > And can we propose to differentiate read and write when calling vfio_pin_pages, e.g. vfio_pin_pages_read, vfio_pin_pages_write? Otherwise, calling to vfio_pin_pages will unnecessarily cause read pages to be dirty and sometimes reading guest pages is a way for device model to track dirty pages. > > > > Alex, if you are OK we'll work on such interface and move kvmgt to use it. > > After it's accepted, we can also mark pages dirty through this new interface > > in Kirti's dirty page tracking series. > >