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From: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, maz@kernel.org,
	vladimir.murzin@arm.com
Subject: Re: [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 06/18] arm/arm64: psci: Don't run C code without stack or vectors
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 14:17:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200106131716.qq2aitogv6u62n2n@kamzik.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200106114149.GB9630@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 11:41:49AM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 10:41:55AM +0000, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > On 1/2/20 6:11 PM, Andre Przywara wrote:
> > > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:09:37 +0000
> > > Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com> wrote:
> > >> +.global asm_cpu_psci_cpu_die
> > >> +asm_cpu_psci_cpu_die:
> > >> +	ldr	r0, =PSCI_0_2_FN_CPU_OFF
> > >> +	hvc	#0
> > >> +	b	.
> > > I am wondering if this implementation is actually too simple. Both
> > > the current implementation and the kernel clear at least the first
> > > three arguments to 0.
> > > I failed to find a requirement for doing this (nothing in the SMCCC
> > > or the PSCI spec), but I guess it would make sense when looking at
> > > forward compatibility.
> > 
> > The SMC calling convention only specifies the values for the arguments that are
> > used by a function, not the values for all possible arguments. kvm-unit-tests sets
> > the other arguments to 0 because the function prototype that does the actual SMC
> > call takes 4 arguments. The value 0 is a random value that was chosen for those
> > unused parameters. For example, it could have been a random number on each call.
> 
> That's correct.
> 
> A caller can leave arbitrary values in non-argument registers, in the
> same manner as a caller of an AAPCS function. The callee should not
> consume those values as they are not arguments.
> 
> > Let me put it another way. Suggesting that unused arguments should be set to 0 is
> > the same as suggesting that normal C function that adheres to procedure call
> > standard for arm64 should always have 8 arguments, and for a particular function
> > that doesn't use all of them, they should be set to 0 by the caller.
> 
> Heh, same rationale. :)

This is a good rationale for the function to not zero parameters.

> 
> > @Mark Rutland has worked on the SMC implementation for the Linux kernel, if he
> > wants to chime in on this.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> > > At the very least it's a change in behaviour (ignoring the missing printf).
> > > So shall we just clear r1, r2 and r3 here? (Same for arm64 below)
> 
> There's no need to zero non-argument registers, and it could potentially
> mask bugs in callees, so I don't think it's a good idea to do so.
> 
> If you really want to test that the callee is robust and correct, it
> would be better to randomize the content of non-argument regsiters to
> fuzz the callee.
>

But this indicates there is risk that we'll be less robust if we don't
zero the parameters. Since this function is a common utility function and
kvm-unit-tests targets KVM, QEMU/tcg, and anything else that somebody
wants to try and target, then if there's any chance that zeroing unused
parameters is more robust, I believe we should do that here. If we want to
test/fuzz the PSCI/SMC emulation with kvm-unit-tests, then we can write
explicit test cases to do that.

I can't speak to the risk of not zeroing, but due to the way we've been
calling PSCI functions with C, I can say up until now we always have.

Thanks,
drew


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-06 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-31 16:09 [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 00/18] arm/arm64: Various fixes Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 01/18] lib: arm/arm64: Remove unnecessary dcache maintenance operations Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 02/18] lib: arm: Add proper data synchronization barriers for TLBIs Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 03/18] lib: Add WRITE_ONCE and READ_ONCE implementations in compiler.h Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-02 18:03   ` Andre Przywara
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 04/18] lib: arm/arm64: Use WRITE_ONCE to update the translation tables Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-02 18:06   ` Andre Przywara
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 05/18] lib: arm/arm64: Remove unused CPU_OFF parameter Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-02 18:11   ` Andre Przywara
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 06/18] arm/arm64: psci: Don't run C code without stack or vectors Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-02 18:11   ` Andre Przywara
2020-01-03 15:31     ` Andrew Jones
2020-01-06 11:02       ` Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06 13:03         ` Andrew Jones
2020-01-06 14:03           ` Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06 10:41     ` Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06 11:17       ` Andre Przywara
2020-01-06 11:28         ` Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06 11:36         ` Mark Rutland
2020-01-06 11:41       ` Mark Rutland
2020-01-06 13:17         ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2020-01-06 14:12           ` Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06 15:20             ` Andrew Jones
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 07/18] lib: arm/arm64: Add missing include for alloc_page.h in pgtable.h Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 08/18] lib: arm: Implement flush_tlb_all Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 09/18] lib: arm/arm64: Teach mmu_clear_user about block mappings Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 10/18] arm/arm64: selftest: Add prefetch abort test Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06  9:24   ` Andrew Jones
2020-01-06 11:03     ` Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 11/18] arm64: timer: Write to ICENABLER to disable timer IRQ Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-03 13:36   ` Andre Przywara
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 12/18] arm64: timer: EOIR the interrupt after masking the timer Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-03 13:36   ` Andre Przywara
2020-01-06 11:35     ` Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 13/18] arm64: timer: Test behavior when timer disabled or masked Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-03 13:37   ` Andre Przywara
2020-01-06 13:22     ` Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 14/18] lib: arm/arm64: Refuse to disable the MMU with non-identity stack pointer Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 15/18] arm/arm64: Perform dcache clean + invalidate after turning MMU off Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-03 16:49   ` Andre Przywara
2020-01-06 14:27     ` Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06 16:28       ` Andrew Jones
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 16/18] arm: cstart64.S: Downgrade TLBI to non-shareable in asm_mmu_enable Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 17/18] arm/arm64: Invalidate TLB before enabling MMU Alexandru Elisei
2019-12-31 16:09 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 18/18] arm: cstart64.S: Remove icache invalidation from asm_mmu_enable Alexandru Elisei
2020-01-06  9:28 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 00/18] arm/arm64: Various fixes Andrew Jones
2020-01-09 10:01   ` Alexandru Elisei

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