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From: Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	will@kernel.org, Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/18] arm64: KVM: enable conditional save/restore full SPE profiling buffer controls
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 12:12:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200110121211.GE42593@e119886-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a9c9076588ef1dd36a6a365848cdfe7@kernel.org>

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:18:48AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On 2020-01-10 10:54, Andrew Murray wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 02:13:25PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:30:16 +0000
> > > Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > [somehow managed not to do a reply all, re-sending]
> > > 
> > > > From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> > > >
> > > > Now that we can save/restore the full SPE controls, we can enable it
> > > > if SPE is setup and ready to use in KVM. It's supported in KVM only if
> > > > all the CPUs in the system supports SPE.
> > > >
> > > > However to support heterogenous systems, we need to move the check if
> > > > host supports SPE and do a partial save/restore.
> > > 
> > > No. Let's just not go down that path. For now, KVM on heterogeneous
> > > systems do not get SPE. If SPE has been enabled on a guest and a CPU
> > > comes up without SPE, this CPU should fail to boot (same as exposing a
> > > feature to userspace).
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/debug-sr.c | 33 ++++++++++++++++-----------------
> > > >  include/kvm/arm_spe.h         |  6 ++++++
> > > >  2 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/debug-sr.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/debug-sr.c
> > > > index 12429b212a3a..d8d857067e6d 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/debug-sr.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/debug-sr.c
> > > > @@ -86,18 +86,13 @@
> > > >  	}
> > > >
> > > >  static void __hyp_text
> > > > -__debug_save_spe_nvhe(struct kvm_cpu_context *ctxt, bool full_ctxt)
> > > > +__debug_save_spe_context(struct kvm_cpu_context *ctxt, bool full_ctxt)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	u64 reg;
> > > >
> > > >  	/* Clear pmscr in case of early return */
> > > >  	ctxt->sys_regs[PMSCR_EL1] = 0;
> > > >
> > > > -	/* SPE present on this CPU? */
> > > > -	if (!cpuid_feature_extract_unsigned_field(read_sysreg(id_aa64dfr0_el1),
> > > > -						  ID_AA64DFR0_PMSVER_SHIFT))
> > > > -		return;
> > > > -
> > > >  	/* Yes; is it owned by higher EL? */
> > > >  	reg = read_sysreg_s(SYS_PMBIDR_EL1);
> > > >  	if (reg & BIT(SYS_PMBIDR_EL1_P_SHIFT))
> > > > @@ -142,7 +137,7 @@ __debug_save_spe_nvhe(struct kvm_cpu_context *ctxt, bool full_ctxt)
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > >  static void __hyp_text
> > > > -__debug_restore_spe_nvhe(struct kvm_cpu_context *ctxt, bool full_ctxt)
> > > > +__debug_restore_spe_context(struct kvm_cpu_context *ctxt, bool full_ctxt)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	if (!ctxt->sys_regs[PMSCR_EL1])
> > > >  		return;
> > > > @@ -210,11 +205,14 @@ void __hyp_text __debug_restore_guest_context(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > >  	struct kvm_guest_debug_arch *host_dbg;
> > > >  	struct kvm_guest_debug_arch *guest_dbg;
> > > >
> > > > +	host_ctxt = kern_hyp_va(vcpu->arch.host_cpu_context);
> > > > +	guest_ctxt = &vcpu->arch.ctxt;
> > > > +
> > > > +	__debug_restore_spe_context(guest_ctxt, kvm_arm_spe_v1_ready(vcpu));
> > > > +
> > > >  	if (!(vcpu->arch.flags & KVM_ARM64_DEBUG_DIRTY))
> > > >  		return;
> > > >
> > > > -	host_ctxt = kern_hyp_va(vcpu->arch.host_cpu_context);
> > > > -	guest_ctxt = &vcpu->arch.ctxt;
> > > >  	host_dbg = &vcpu->arch.host_debug_state.regs;
> > > >  	guest_dbg = kern_hyp_va(vcpu->arch.debug_ptr);
> > > >
> > > > @@ -232,8 +230,7 @@ void __hyp_text __debug_restore_host_context(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > >  	host_ctxt = kern_hyp_va(vcpu->arch.host_cpu_context);
> > > >  	guest_ctxt = &vcpu->arch.ctxt;
> > > >
> > > > -	if (!has_vhe())
> > > > -		__debug_restore_spe_nvhe(host_ctxt, false);
> > > > +	__debug_restore_spe_context(host_ctxt, kvm_arm_spe_v1_ready(vcpu));
> > > 
> > > So you now do an unconditional save/restore on the exit path for VHE
> > > as
> > > well? Even if the host isn't using the SPE HW? That's not acceptable
> > > as, in most cases, only the host /or/ the guest will use SPE. Here,
> > > you
> > > put a measurable overhead on each exit.
> > > 
> > > If the host is not using SPE, then the restore/save should happen in
> > > vcpu_load/vcpu_put. Only if the host is using SPE should you do
> > > something in the run loop. Of course, this only applies to VHE and
> > > non-VHE must switch eagerly.
> > > 
> > 
> > On VHE where SPE is used in the guest only - we save/restore in
> > vcpu_load/put.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > On VHE where SPE is used in the host only - we save/restore in the run
> > loop.
> 
> Why? If only the host is using SPE, why should we do *anything at all*?

Oh yeah of course, we trap them in this case.

(Do I understand correctly that we don't/can't trap them for nVHE? - and so
we should save/restore them for this use-case in nVHE)


> 
> > On VHE where SPE is used in guest and host - we save/restore in the run
> > loop.
> > 
> > As the guest can't trace EL2 it doesn't matter if we restore guest SPE
> > early
> > in the vcpu_load/put functions. (I assume it doesn't matter that we
> > restore
> > an EL0/EL1 profiling buffer address at this point and enable tracing
> > given
> > that there is nothing to trace until entering the guest).
> 
> As long as you do it after the EL1 sysregs have need restored so that the
> SPE
> HW has a valid context, we should be fine. Don't restore it before that
> point
> though (you have no idea whether the SPE HW can do speculative memory
> accesses
> that would use the wrong page tables).

Right, so don't enable tracing until SPE has a valid context. I understand
that to mean at least the SPE buffer address registers (PMBPTR, PMBLIMITR)
in the right context with respect to the E2PB bits (translation regime)
and having those tables mapped in (which I think relate to the __activateX,
__sysreg_restore_guest_stateX type of calls in kvm_vcpu_run_X right?).

I think that means we can restore the registers no earler than vcpu_load/put
but we can't re-enable the tracing (PMSCR) until no earlier than just before
__set_guest_arch_workaround_state. I think that applies to both VHE and nVHE?

> 
> > However the reason for moving save/restore to vcpu_load/put when the
> > host is
> > using SPE is to minimise the host EL2 black-out window.
> 
> You should move it to *the run loop* when both host and guest are using SPE.
> 
> > On nVHE we always save/restore in the run loop. For the SPE
> > guest-use-only
> > use-case we can't save/restore in vcpu_load/put - because the guest runs
> > at
> > the same ELx level as the host - and thus doing so would result in the
> > guest
> > tracing part of the host.
> 
> Not only. It would actively corrupt memory in the host by using the wrong
> page tables.
> 
> > Though if we determine that (for nVHE systems) the guest SPE is
> > profiling only
> > EL0 - then we could also save/restore in vcpu_load/put where SPE is only
> > being
> > used in the guest.
> 
> Same as above: wrong MM context, speculation, potential memory corruption.
> 
> > Does that make sense, are my reasons correct?
> 
> Not entirely. I think you should use the following table:
> 
> VHE | Host-SPE | Guest-SPE | Switch location
>  0  |     0    |     0     | none
>  0  |     0    |     1     | run loop
>  0  |     1    |     0     | run loop
>  0  |     1    |     1     | run loop
>  1  |     0    |     0     | none
>  1  |     0    |     1     | load/put
>  1  |     1    |     0     | none
>  1  |     1    |     1     | run loop

Thanks,

Andrew Murray

> 
> Thanks,
> 
>         M.
> -- 
> Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-10 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-20 14:30 [PATCH v2 00/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE profiling support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] dt-bindings: ARM SPE: highlight the need for PPI partitions on heterogeneous systems Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] arm64: KVM: reset E2PB correctly in MDCR_EL2 when exiting the guest(VHE) Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:12   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 10:29     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-02 16:21       ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] arm64: KVM: define SPE data structure for each vcpu Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:19   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:01     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE system registers to sys_reg_descs Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] arm64: KVM/VHE: enable the use PMSCR_EL12 on VHE systems Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] arm64: KVM: split debug save restore across vm/traps activation Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] arm64: KVM/debug: drop pmscr_el1 and use sys_regs[PMSCR_EL1] in kvm_cpu_context Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] arm64: KVM: add support to save/restore SPE profiling buffer controls Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 10:49     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 15:17       ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 15:48         ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] arm64: KVM: enable conditional save/restore full " Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:06   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-24 12:15     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 14:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07 15:13     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-08 11:17       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-08 11:58         ` Will Deacon
2020-01-08 12:36           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-08 13:10             ` Will Deacon
2020-01-09 11:23               ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 11:25                 ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 12:01                   ` Will Deacon
2020-01-10 10:54     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:04       ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:51         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 12:12           ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:18       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 12:12         ` Andrew Murray [this message]
2020-01-10 13:34           ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] arm64: KVM/debug: use EL1&0 stage 1 translation regime Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 10:34   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 11:11     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-13 16:31     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-15 14:03       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] KVM: arm64: don't trap Statistical Profiling controls to EL2 Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:08   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-22 10:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 11:56     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-23 12:05       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 12:10         ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 17:25           ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 17:42             ` Mark Rutland
2020-01-09 17:46               ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] KVM: arm64: add a new vcpu device control group for SPEv1 Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 11:03   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:30     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] perf: arm_spe: Add KVM structure for obtaining IRQ info Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 11:24   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:35     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] KVM: arm64: spe: Provide guest virtual interrupts for SPE Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 12:07   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 11:50     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 12:42       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 13:08         ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 13:22           ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 13:36             ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 13:46               ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] perf: arm_spe: Handle guest/host exclusion flags Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:10   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-22 12:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 12:10     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-23 12:18       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] KVM: arm64: enable SPE support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 17/18, KVMTOOL] update_headers: Sync kvm UAPI headers with linux v5.5-rc2 Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 18/18, KVMTOOL] kvm: add a vcpu feature for SPEv1 support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE profiling support Mark Rutland
2019-12-24 12:54   ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 10:48 ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-22 12:22   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:56     ` Andrew Murray

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