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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>, <cjia@nvidia.com>,
	<kevin.tian@intel.com>, <ziye.yang@intel.com>,
	<changpeng.liu@intel.com>, <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	<mlevitsk@redhat.com>, <eskultet@redhat.com>,
	<jonathan.davies@nutanix.com>, <eauger@redhat.com>,
	<aik@ozlabs.ru>, <pasic@linux.ibm.com>, <felipe@nutanix.com>,
	<Zhengxiao.zx@alibaba-inc.com>, <shuangtai.tst@alibaba-inc.com>,
	<Ken.Xue@amd.com>, <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>, <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	<qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 Kernel 1/5] vfio: KABI for migration interface for device state
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:21:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200110152111.74c87595.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200108154428.02bb312d@w520.home>

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:44:28 -0700
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:11:11 +0530
> Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 1/9/2020 12:01 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:  
> > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:59:55 +0100
> > > Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:

> > >> I think one thing we could do is start to tie the meaning more to the
> > >> actual state (bit combination) and less to the individual bits. I.e.
> > >>
> > >> - bit 0 indicates 'running',
> > >> - bit 1 indicates 'saving',
> > >> - bit 2 indicates 'resuming',
> > >> - bits 3-31 are reserved. [Aside: reserved-and-ignored or
> > >>    reserved-and-must-be-zero?]    
> > > 
> > > This version specified them as:
> > > 
> > > 	Bits 3 - 31 are reserved for future use. User should perform
> > > 	read-modify-write operation on this field.
> > > 
> > > The intention is that the user should not make any assumptions about
> > > the state of the reserved bits, but should preserve them when changing
> > > known bits.  Therefore I think it's ignored but preserved.  If we
> > > specify them as zero, then I think we lose any chance to define them
> > > later.

Nod. What about extending the description to:

"Bits 3-31 are reserved for future use. In order to preserve them, a
read-modify-write operation on this field should be used when modifying
the specified bits."

?

> > >     
> > >> [Note that I don't specify what happens when a bit is set or unset.]
> > >>
> > >> States are then defined as:
> > >> 000b => stopped state (not saving or resuming)
> > >> 001b => running state (not saving or resuming)
> > >> 010b => stop-and-copy state
> > >> 011b => pre-copy state
> > >> 100b => resuming state
> > >>
> > >> [Transitions between these states defined, as before.]
> > >>
> > >> 101b => reserved [for post-copy; no transitions defined]
> > >> 111b => reserved [state does not make sense; no transitions defined]
> > >> 110b => error state [state does not make sense per se, but it does not
> > >>          indicate running; transitions into this state *are* possible]
> > >>
> > >> To a 'reserved' state, we can later assign a different meaning (we
> > >> could even re-use 111b for a different error state, if needed); while
> > >> the error state must always stay the error state.
> > >>
> > >> We should probably use some kind of feature indication to signify
> > >> whether a 'reserved' state actually has a meaning. Also, maybe we also
> > >> should designate the states > 111b as 'reserved'.
> > >>
> > >> Does that make sense?    
> > > 
> > > It seems you have an opinion to restrict this particular error state to
> > > 110b rather than 11Xb, reserving 111b for some future error condition.
> > > That's fine and I think we agree that using the state with _RUNNING set
> > > to zero is more logical as we expect the device to be non-operational
> > > in this state.

Good.

> > > 
> > > I'm also thinking more of these as states, but at the same time we're
> > > not doing away with the bit definitions.  I think the states are much
> > > easier to decode and use if we think about the function of each bit,
> > > which leads to the logical incongruity that the 11Xb states are
> > > impossible and therefore must be error states.

Yes, that's fine.

> > >     
> > 
> > I agree on bit definition is better.
> > 
> > Ok. Should there be a defined value for error, which can be used by 
> > vendor driver for error state?
> > 
> > #define VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_ERROR			\
> > 		(VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_SAVING | VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RESUMING)  
> 
> Seems like a good idea for consistency.  Thanks,
> 
> Alex

Agreed, I like that as well.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-10 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-16 20:21 [PATCH v10 Kernel 0/5] KABIs to support migration for VFIO devices Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-16 20:21 ` [PATCH v10 Kernel 1/5] vfio: KABI for migration interface for device state Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-16 22:44   ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-17  6:28     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-17  7:12       ` Yan Zhao
2019-12-17 18:43       ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-19 16:08         ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-19 17:27           ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-19 20:10             ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-19 21:09               ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-02 18:25                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-06 23:18                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-07  7:28                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2020-01-07 17:09                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-07 17:53                         ` Kirti Wankhede
2020-01-07 18:56                           ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-08 14:59                             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-01-08 18:31                               ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-08 20:41                                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2020-01-08 22:44                                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-10 14:21                                     ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2020-01-07  9:57                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-07 16:54                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-07 17:50                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-12-16 20:21 ` [PATCH v10 Kernel 2/5] vfio iommu: Adds flag to indicate dirty pages tracking capability support Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-16 23:16   ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-17  6:32     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-16 20:21 ` [PATCH v10 Kernel 3/5] vfio iommu: Add ioctl defination for dirty pages tracking Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-16 20:21 ` [PATCH v10 Kernel 4/5] vfio iommu: Implementation of ioctl to " Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-17  5:15   ` Yan Zhao
2019-12-17  9:24     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-17  9:51       ` Yan Zhao
2019-12-17 11:47         ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-18  1:04           ` Yan Zhao
2019-12-18 20:05             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-12-19  0:57               ` Yan Zhao
2019-12-19 16:21                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-20  0:58                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-01-03 19:44                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-04  3:53                       ` Yan Zhao
2019-12-18 21:39       ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-19 18:42         ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-12-19 18:56           ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-16 20:21 ` [PATCH v10 Kernel 5/5] vfio iommu: Update UNMAP_DMA ioctl to get dirty bitmap before unmap Kirti Wankhede

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