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From: Jon Doron <arilou@gmail.com>
To: Roman Kagan <rvkagan@yandex-team.ru>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,
	vkuznets@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/1] x86/kvm/hyper-v: Add support to SYNIC exit on EOM
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:20:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424122032.GE1917435@jondnuc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200418064127.GB1917435@jondnuc>

On 18/04/2020, Jon Doron wrote:
>On 17/04/2020, Roman Kagan wrote:
>>On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 03:54:30PM +0300, Jon Doron wrote:
>>>On 16/04/2020, Roman Kagan wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:38:46AM +0300, Jon Doron wrote:
>>>> > According to the TLFS:
>>>> > "A write to the end of message (EOM) register by the guest causes the
>>>> > hypervisor to scan the internal message buffer queue(s) associated with
>>>> > the virtual processor.
>>>> >
>>>> > If a message buffer queue contains a queued message buffer, the hypervisor
>>>> > attempts to deliver the message.
>>>> >
>>>> > Message delivery succeeds if the SIM page is enabled and the message slot
>>>> > corresponding to the SINTx is empty (that is, the message type in the
>>>> > header is set to HvMessageTypeNone).
>>>> > If a message is successfully delivered, its corresponding internal message
>>>> > buffer is dequeued and marked free.
>>>> > If the corresponding SINTx is not masked, an edge-triggered interrupt is
>>>> > delivered (that is, the corresponding bit in the IRR is set).
>>>> >
>>>> > This register can be used by guests to poll for messages. It can also be
>>>> > used as a way to drain the message queue for a SINTx that has
>>>> > been disabled (that is, masked)."
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't this work already?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well if you dont have SCONTROL and a GSI associated with the SINT then it
>>>does not...
>>
>>Yes you do need both of these.
>>
>>>> > So basically this means that we need to exit on EOM so the hypervisor
>>>> > will have a chance to send all the pending messages regardless of the
>>>> > SCONTROL mechnaisim.
>>>>
>>>> I might be misinterpreting the spec, but my understanding is that
>>>> SCONTROL {en,dis}ables the message queueing completely.  What the quoted
>>>> part means is that a write to EOM should trigger the message source to
>>>> push a new message into the slot, regardless of whether the SINT was
>>>> masked or not.
>>>>
>>>> And this (I think, haven't tested) should already work.  The userspace
>>>> just keeps using the SINT route as it normally does, posting
>>>> notifications to the corresponding irqfd when posting a message, and
>>>> waiting on the resamplerfd for the message slot to become free.  If the
>>>> SINT is masked KVM will skip injecting the interrupt, that's it.
>>>>
>>>> Roman.
>>>
>>>That's what I was thinking originally as well, but then i noticed KDNET as a
>>>VMBus client (and it basically runs before anything else) is working in this
>>>polling mode, where SCONTROL is disabled and it just loops, and if it saw
>>>there is a PENDING message flag it will issue an EOM to indicate it has free
>>>the slot.
>>
>>Who sets up the message page then?  Doesn't it enabe SCONTROL as well?
>>
>
>KdNet is the one setting the SIMP and it's not setting the SCONTROL, 
>ill paste output of KVM traces for the relevant MSRs
>
>>Note that, even if you don't see it being enabled by Windows, it can be
>>enabled by the firmware and/or by the bootloader.
>>
>>Can you perhaps try with the SeaBIOS from
>>https://src.openvz.org/projects/UP/repos/seabios branch hv-scsi?  It
>>enables SCONTROL and leaves it that way.
>>
>>I'd also suggest tracing kvm_msr events (both reads and writes) for
>>SCONTROL and SIMP msrs, to better understand the picture.
>>
>>So far the change you propose appears too heavy to work around the
>>problem of disabled SCONTROL.  You seem to be better off just making
>>sure it's enabled (either by the firmware or slighly violating the spec
>>and initializing to enabled from the start), and sticking to the
>>existing infrastructure for posting messages.
>>
>
>I guess there is something I'm missing here but let's say the BIOS 
>would have set the SCONTROL but the OS is not setting it, who is in 
>charge of handling the interrupts?
>
>>>(There are a bunch of patches i sent on the QEMU mailing list as well  where
>>>i CCed you, I will probably revise it a bit but was hoping to get  KVM
>>>sorted out first).
>>
>>I'll look through the archive, should be there, thanks.
>>
>>Roman.
>
>I tried testing with both the SeaBIOS branch you have suggested and 
>the EDK2, unfortunately I could not get the EDK2 build to identify my 
>VM drive to boot from (not sure why)
>
>Here is an output of KVM trace for the relevant MSRs (SCONTROL and SIMP)
>
>QEMU Default BIOS
>-----------------
> qemu-system-x86-613   [000] ....  1121.080722: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-613   [000] ....  1121.080722: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-613   [000] .N..  1121.095592: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-613   [000] .N..  1121.095592: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
>Choose Windows DebugEntry
> qemu-system-x86-613   [001] ....  1165.185227: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-613   [001] ....  1165.185255: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1001 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-613   [001] ....  1165.185255: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1001
> qemu-system-x86-613   [001] ....  1165.193206: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0xfa1001
> qemu-system-x86-613   [001] ....  1165.193236: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1000 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-613   [001] ....  1165.193237: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1000
>
>
>SeaBIOS hv-scsci
>----------------
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.072714: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.072714: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.087752: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.087752: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.156675: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.156680: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x7fffe001 host 0
>Choose Windows DebugEntry
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.156680: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0x7fffe001
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.162111: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000080 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.162118: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x1 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.162119: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000080 = 0x1
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.246758: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x7fffe001
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.246764: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1313.246764: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1348.904727: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1348.904771: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1001 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1348.904772: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1001
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1348.919170: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0xfa1001
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1348.919183: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1000 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656   [001] ....  1348.919183: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1000
>
>
> I could not get the EDK2 setup to work though
> (https://src.openvz.org/projects/UP/repos/edk2 branch hv-scsi)
>
>It does not detect my VM hard drive not sure why (this is how i  
>configured it:
> -drive file=./win10.qcow2,format=qcow2,if=none,id=drive_disk0 \
> -device virtio-blk-pci,drive=drive_disk0 \
>
>(Is there something special i need to configure it order for it to  
>work?, I tried building EDK2 with and without SMM_REQUIRE and  
>SECURE_BOOT_ENABLE)
>
>
>But in general it sounds like there is something I dont fully 
>understand when SCONTROL is enabled, then a GSI is associated with 
>this SintRoute.
>
>Then when the guest triggers an EOI via the APIC we will trigger the 
>GSI notification, which will give us another go on trying to copy the 
>message into it's slot.
>
>So is it the OS that is in charge of setting the EOI? If so then it 
>needs to be aware of SCONTROL being enabled and just having it left 
>set by the BIOS might not be enough?
>
>Also in the TLFS (looking at v6) they mention that message queueing 
>has "3 exit conditions", which will cause the hypervisor to try and 
>attempt to deliver the additional messages.
>
>The 3 exit conditions they refer to are:
>* Another message buffer is queued.
>* The guest indicates the “end of interrupt” by writing to the APIC’s   
>EOI register.
>* The guest indicates the “end of message” by writing to the SynIC’s 
>EOM   register.
>
>Also notice this additional exit is only if there is a pending message 
>and not for every EOM.
>
>Thanks,
>-- Jon.

Hi Roman

Any other thoughts/suggestions about this?

Thanks,
-- Jon.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-16  8:38 [PATCH v2 0/1] x86/kvm/hyper-v: Add support to SYNIC exit on EOM Jon Doron
2020-04-16  8:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Jon Doron
2020-04-16 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Roman Kagan
2020-04-16 12:54   ` Jon Doron
2020-04-17 10:42     ` Roman Kagan
2020-04-18  6:41       ` Jon Doron
2020-04-24 12:20         ` Jon Doron [this message]
2020-04-24 13:37         ` Roman Kagan
2020-04-25  6:16           ` Jon Doron
2020-05-02 14:47             ` Jon Doron
2020-05-03 19:19             ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-04 15:55               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-05-05  8:01                 ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-05 10:38                   ` Jon Doron
2020-05-05 20:00                     ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-06  4:49                       ` Jon Doron
2020-05-06  8:46                         ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-07  3:00                           ` Jon Doron
2020-05-08 14:29                             ` Jon Doron
2020-05-08 16:56                               ` Roman Kagan

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